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tweak

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It all depends on which fan you get with it. The Delta Black Label is on the loud side but moves 38 CFM. The YS Tech is quiter and moves 27CFM. The heatsink itself is superiour to the Globalwins.
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mike

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Hey Tweak,

I was just wondering what makes the Alpha's more superior than the Globalwins. I have tried out the: Alpha PAL6035, Alpha PEP66T, GW FOP38, and am currently using the WBK38. The two that give me the best cooling have been the GWs. Are there other factors that I have to consider besides just the cooling temperature? And, of course, I used the Loud Delta on all of them. Thanks
 

jmr89gt

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I have used both of thos fans and the Delta is much louder than the YStech, but the YS tech is not that quiet in its own right, although I doubt anyone would have a problem with it.
 
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marty

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I tried four brands of fans and didn't really like the noise with any of them. I returned the Global Win fan(Delta) for a Sunon. Then I tried the Sanyo Denke and another from a small company. I liked the Sunon the best but replaced it with a PC Power and Cooling 80 mm fan that I adapted to the frame of one of the 60x60x25 mm fans.

It is too bad Panaflo fans don't come in this size!
 
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tweak

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The 6035 with sunon fan doesn't do a very good job. The fop38 cools 10C cooler than it. If you get a Alpha get one with either the ys tech(27cfm) or the black label delta(38cfm) The design and copper insert makes it superior.
a 6035 w/ 27cfm fan cools as well as a fop38, cost more though. One with a delta cools about 5C better.
 

KaHNZa

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tweak (Mar 23, 2001 12:42 p.m.):
It all depends on which fan you get with it. The Delta Black Label is on the loud side but moves 38 CFM. The YS Tech is quiter and moves 27CFM. The heatsink itself is superiour to the Globalwins.
www.CoolerChips.com
www.3dfxcool.com
CoolerChips is the cheapest I have seen them.

Alphas are NOT superiour to Globalwins. I had a FOP38 that kept my [email protected] around 38-39c, but the Alpha keeps it at 42c! I had originally thought that the Alpha PAL6035 would be better, but apparently not. BTW, both the FOP38 and the PAL6035 are using a Delta.
 

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The pal 6035 bennefits a lot with higher cfm´s becouse it´s not a massive heatsink, but a high surfaced area heatsink... I have one with a sanyo denki 20cfm fan and it´s not great.. but let´s my [email protected] stable... I´d prefer all teh way the papst 33cfm.... I have read its complete datasheet (I have the complete papst catalogue magazine and datasheets) and found it to be a very high quality product, delivering huge 33cfm with a not so louder level than others but far away from the delta... I have seen lots of people returning the deltas....
PAPST NO WRONG! There is an old link somewhere in thte site to buy it with discount for oc.com readers... I´d use a better fan but plan to move toward peltier watercooled system (maybe in 2004 i´ll finish it...) See you guys!
 

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Apparently, it depends on your system. I have both the GlobalWin FOP38 and the Alpha 6035. With my cooling setup and configuration, the FOP wins. All temps taken after 15 minutes of playing the Unreal demo loop.

FOP with Delta fan blowing (load temps): MB=32, CPU=39
Alpha with Sunon fan blowing (load temps): MB=36, CPU=41
Alpha with Delta fan blowing (load temps): MB=35, CPU=40.5
Alpha with Sunon fan sucking (load temps): MB=39, CPU=40.5
Alpha with Delta fan sucking (load temps): MB=40, CPU=39
FOP with 80mm Sunon HO fan blowing: MB=31, CPU=38.5
Alpha w/Delta sucking & 2 more case fans: MB=38, CPU=38.5
 

KaHNZa

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Another thing that I don't like is the clip on the PAL6035. There is no lip to put a screwdriver or some other device while the FOP38 does.
 

Ghettoweasel

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To answer your question, YES!. The Delta fan is very noisy....BUT, and there is always a but. It does the job and very well. My 1.2Tbird at 'stock' clock and Vcore runs at 9-11°F above ambient and I've yet to see it go over 100F
 

KaHNZa

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I JUST learned something. The PAL6035 performs MUCH better if you set the fan to "suck" air from the heatsink. It dropped my temps from 38c to 33c! I now have a new appreciation for the 6035.
 

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I have found that idle temps really don't mean much, except to give you an indication of how efficient your case cooling is. Better check full load temps with a hardware monitoring program.

My P-III 700 overclocked to over 1 gig using the FOP with a 80mm high output fan (listed in my last post) idles at only 3 degrees C. above ambient temp on the motherboard and 6 degrees C. on the CPU.
 
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mike

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No one has answered my question. I haven't seen supporters of the Alpha being "Superior" over the GlobalWin. I am very neutral this subject. I just wish I can get some real "facts" on this issue. Hey Khanza, with the Delta sucking out, you're went from 38C to 33C? With my GW WBK38, I'm currently getting 28C idle and 31C full load. As many especially have mentioned (especially Hoot) that the copper base plate is better in transferring heat compared to aluminum like the FOP and WBK, then why isn't the performance better than the GW's? As I mentioned earlier, I used both the Alpha's and GW's, and really appreciate the craftsmanship of Alpha. I still have the PEP66T and want to believe it's better than the WBK38, yet the numbers I have still yet to see. Yes, I have tried both sucking and blowing, and the WBK38 has kept my temps down the best. Hope u people can convince me otherwise. Thanks to all!!!

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2 80mm Sunon 42.5 cfm intake fans
2 pci slot exhaust fans
1 80mm Sunon 42.5 exhaust fan
 
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Radak

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hey tweak. You seem to be a good source for information. I think I'm gonna go with the Alpha PAL6035. hey tweak is that you on your avatar?? Man you are good looking, you look big and strong LOL!!

PS I'm just joking I'm a man LOL!!
 

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mike (Mar 23, 2001 10:28 p.m.):
No one has answered my question. I haven't seen supporters of the Alpha being "Superior" over the GlobalWin. I am very neutral this subject. I just wish I can get some real "facts" on this issue. Hey Khanza, with the Delta sucking out, you're went from 38C to 33C? With my GW WBK38, I'm currently getting 28C idle and 31C full load. As many especially have mentioned (especially Hoot) that the copper base plate is better in transferring heat compared to aluminum like the FOP and WBK, then why isn't the performance better than the GW's? As I mentioned earlier, I used both the Alpha's and GW's, and really appreciate the craftsmanship of Alpha. I still have the PEP66T and want to believe it's better than the WBK38, yet the numbers I have still yet to see. Yes, I have tried both sucking and blowing, and the WBK38 has kept my temps down the best. Hope u people can convince me otherwise. Thanks to all!!!

T-Bird 900 (saving up for a conductive pen, want to do the OC right)
IWILL KK266 non-raid
IBM 75 GXP 20.5G
ELSA Gladiac Geforce2 GTS 32mb
2 sticks of Kingmax 128 pc150 SDRAM
Enermax 451 power supply
2 80mm Sunon 42.5 cfm intake fans
2 pci slot exhaust fans
1 80mm Sunon 42.5 exhaust fan

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