am i the only one getting high temps on IT7 MAX?

[zeph]

Hello.
I'm using P4-1.6A (cooling flow and lapped)
and stock HSF on IT7 Max.
the issue is temp.

Here's my temps.
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Cassis temp - 45C
CPU Temp (idle) - 55C
CPU Temp (load) - 67C

1.575V setting on board but it's just 1.50V on MBM
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i was using BD7-II before this and was getting same temps.
i've reinstalled the HSF few times but nothing changed.
i also tried on default volt with no o/c then i get 48C - 60C

want to know if i'm the only one that getting too high temps on this mobo

 

[mskreis]

That looks high compared to my temps:

system 30
idle 45.5
load 54.5

 

[pprocha]

Same problem here, even with my Swiftech MCX478-B with Delta FFB-80HP and AS3
1,65V
Idle: 46º C
Load : 57º C
Seems the sensor reads higer temperatures OR is more acurate than other P4 boards

 

[Chicane13]

Mine seem to be quite a bit lower -
at 1.65v
Idle between 48 and 49.5
Load max has been 60.5

this is just with the stock Intel cooler and pad at 2.4 Ghz, however, I'm not sure about how accurate these readings are, but everything seems to be ok, no crashing or anything.
Mindyou, my location (Scotland) might have something to do with things being ok temp-wise.
S.

 

[Sleepyhead]

Mine are also higher than I would have expected with a 2.0a @ 2.4 (default vcore) + Swiftech MXC478 + 68CFM Delta.

Ambient: 20/21
System: 29
Idle: 44
Load: 52

Know of a couple of other people with high-ish temps too.

 

[ross2k]

Put my down for the high temps too. Granted my case/circulation is still not great, but these are what I'm getting:

System/CPU
Idle : 40/45
Load : 48/55

I've seen those digital thermometers with very flat probes. Anyone know if you could use one of those and put it between the heatsink and die to get a more accurate reading? Theres gotta be a way to know whats going on in there for sure.

 

[kooshball]

um, if your temp seems too high, maybe u can get a external thermometer or something.

koosh

 

[ross2k]

Thats pretty much what I was suggesting. I'm wondering what is the most accurate way to use an external thermometer?

I imagine the side of the base of the heatsink wouldn't be a very good judge. You'd need to get one of those really flat ones and get it under the heatsink, maybe next to the processor...

Anyone?

 

[ross2k]

buh bump

 

[Ettepet]

I have an IT7 as well, with high temperature readings. Part of the problem is your CPU itself, see below:

How to calibrate your CPU's Thermal Diode:

 

[Ettepet]

I have an IT7 as well, with high temperature readings. Part of the problem is your CPU itself, see below:

How to calibrate your CPU's Thermal Diode:

After calibrating my cpu-temperature readings seemed to be off by 19.45 degrees celsius !!! (that's 35 degrees fahrenheit)

ps: And I checked that 3 times!

 

[Solr_Flare]

In general the IT7s are usually reading anywhere between 5 to 10c higher than they should be. Occassionally its a bit more or less. Basically though, if you are running a P4 at under 50c full load on an IT7 you are running nice and cool. Up to 54-55c and you are still running pretty good on the mobo.

I guess ABIT decided to not only fill the void of having a legacy free mobo, but also having a high temp reporting one in order to fill the void ASUS has recently left us all

 

[Ettepet]

In general the IT7s are usually reading anywhere between 5 to 10c higher than they should be. Occassionally its a bit more or less. Basically though, if you are running a P4 at under 50c full load on an IT7 you are running nice and cool. Up to 54-55c and you are still running pretty good on the mobo.

I guess ABIT decided to not only fill the void of having a legacy free mobo, but also having a high temp reporting one in order to fill the void ASUS has recently left us all

I bet Abit just uses the wrong Winbond register in their bios:

"Winbond 2 diode" in stead of "Windbond 2 2N3904".

In MBM5 the differences on my computer are spectacular (from almost 20 degrees too high to only 3 degrees too low). If you change the sensor setting in MBM5 then all other software _and_ the motherboard will use it as well, since you can only use one register-setting at a time..

 

[Sleepyhead]

I bet Abit just uses the wrong Winbond register in their bios:

"Winbond 2 diode" in stead of "Winbond 2 2N3904".

So which is the reading from the P4 on-die sensor then?

With my IT7 (and new) 2.26b @ 2.72 (1.63v actual, cooled by a mxc4000 and TMD fan) under load (Prime95) the Winbond 2 Diode reports up to 69c whereas the Winbond 2 2N3904 reports 48c. Which is correct?

 

[CSHawkeye81]

so which one should i use cause one readsy 60c full load while the other is at like 45c full load.

 

[Ettepet]

Both of you should use the second, I get about the same readings. And if you want to trouble yourself, calibrate it by the above mentioned method. With mine I had to add 3 degrees (instead of substracting 19.45).

You can also check if your readings are oké by booting up cold (machine off for a while). Beforehand set your FSB/Vc to the slowest settings, and keep your case open. While keeping your cpu idle, compare your readings with a decent regular thermometer. Values from the Winbond should start around the environment temperature and then rise slightly. You can notice offsets quickly this way.

 

[RaidalG]

Abit has a history of high temp readings on their mobo's

My system (see my sig) has the same problem. Knowing how far off it is helps, but if your mobo "thinks" the temp. gets above 66C, it will start throttling. (several people in these and HardOCP forums have reported verifying this) Really puts a damper on OC'ing.

The BD7-II, BD-7, IT7, and some TH-7's have been reported with this problem. ("TH-7" is that the right designation? I'm not sure; Its the Abit 850 board with RDram)

 

[Ettepet]

Re: Abit has a history of high temp readings on their mobo's

My system (see my sig) has the same problem. Knowing how far off it is helps, but if your mobo "thinks" the temp. gets above 66C, it will start throttling. (several people in these and HardOCP forums have reported verifying this) Really puts a damper on OC'ing.

The BD7-II, BD-7, IT7, and some TH-7's have been reported with this problem. ("TH-7" is that the right designation? I'm not sure; Its the Abit 850 board with RDram)

First of all you can set the 66 degrees to any value you like, uptil 120. Second, when you let MBM5 read the other register this will also change the register for the motherboard (and Winbond Hardware Doctor). Third, the slight offset you keep you can determine (if you like) and compensate in MBM.ini (this doesn't compensate the value the bios uses, so keep that in mind).

From what I hear this method also works for the other Abit boards. So someone should mail Abit about the solution to this bug.

 

[RaidalG]

Thanks for the reply

So the setting in bios for CPU warning temperature alarm also controls throttling? I was not aware of that. (That is the only setting in my bios that relates to temp and throttling. The other setting is % of throttle)

Thanks for the info.

I have been wary of using MBM because on selecting settings to read from, it shut down my system several times. (I think I had the bios setting for shutdown on low fan RPM enabled and MBM messed with that register.) Have you had problems with MBM doing this kind of thing?

 

[Ettepet]

Re: Thanks for the reply

So the setting in bios for CPU warning temperature alarm also controls throttling? I was not aware of that. (That is the only setting in my bios that relates to temp and throttling. The other setting is % of throttle)

Thanks for the info.

I don't know about your mobo, but I can set both a warning and a shutdown temperature on my IT7-Max.

I have been wary of using MBM because on selecting settings to read from, it shut down my system several times. (I think I had the bios setting for shutdown on low fan RPM enabled and MBM messed with that register.) Have you had problems with MBM doing this kind of thing?

I had exactly the same thing, MBM5 is not well coded in that respect.

What I did was (you can do all this without starting MBM5):

1. switch off "SMB" and "Reset" (in MBM.ini):
   Ignore SMB=1
   Ignore Reset=1
   
2. increase reaction time before unwanted reboot (MBM.ini):
   [Alarm]
   Temperature Alarm Action After=10
   Voltage Alarm Action After=10
   Fan Alarm Action After=10
   
3. Switch off all the Sensor warnings (in the Settings-menu, or MBM.ini):
   T1 Alarm High=0
   ..
   T2 Alarm High=0
   ..
   T3 Alarm High=0
   
4. It should work now, if you don't meddle too much with the Winbond registers (just choose the appropriate ones):
   T1 Sensor=1
   ..
   T2 Sensor=365
5. I also changed the offsets, in my case:
   T1 Compensation=-3
   ..
   T2 Compensation=3
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   ps: If it still boots, resets, restarts or anything other drastic, give me a sign because I might have forgotten something...
   pps: I don't use MBM5 itself at the moment, but I use the temperature readings of MBM5 through CoolMon 0.98. That way I get transparent letters on top of my background image, which is real cool!