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AMD RDNA4 Information...Pre/Post Launch
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Read the Tom's article. It's literally spelled out for us in his own words from the interview with Paul.
From the article...
What are you taking away from that? It's not vague and lays out (market share) goals, even.
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Outside of that interview other things AMD have said & done (or not said & done) could lead someone to think they aren't pushing the new GPUs. Their CES GPU coverage was a major disappointment to me, as one example.
But I still think the company's goal is to increase market share in the low to mid-range GPU market.
But I still think the company's goal is to increase market share in the low to mid-range GPU market.
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I have read it. It is an intent, but there is no timescale. RDNA4 might not be the gen they achieve that, and the question then becomes how much progress can they make? How long has Ryzen taken to grow to where it is now?
I need to dig through the rumours again. Was there a 2nd smaller die for the lower model(s)? My position on costs is based upon the big die they have shown, which implies they could be constrained on pricing. It is comparable to 4080 die in size, on a "better" node.
I need to dig through the rumours again. Was there a 2nd smaller die for the lower model(s)? My position on costs is based upon the big die they have shown, which implies they could be constrained on pricing. It is comparable to 4080 die in size, on a "better" node.
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They may not achieve that this gen, but that's not really the point of the convo...implementation is.
It feels like this is the first step... not competing at the top, aggressive pricing, etc. It will take more than one gen to realize the dream. That's a no brainer.
It feels like this is the first step... not competing at the top, aggressive pricing, etc. It will take more than one gen to realize the dream. That's a no brainer.
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Let's see if they can move the needle. Love it or hate it, Steam Hardware Survey remains an indicator. Even if it doesn't cover all gamers, it is best we got. Oldest data for GPU company share I have saved goes back to Nov 2023. Between AMD and NV the needle hasn't really budged over that time.
Steam is pretty good because many users use actual hardware daily. However, to see it as a good information source, we have to wait months, maybe a year, to tell if the new generation will be good/popular. I guess people will have their minds set on something before any proper comparison appears. Once it floods the web, it will be hard to change peoples' minds, and we will go back to the typical AMD/Nvidia good/bad fights. Right now, it's hard to find any good comments about Nvidia, but somehow, their products are sold out, so I guess they don't care.
Considering Nvidia's availability problems, AMD's delay may be its first good move in years.
I'm curious how Intel finishes this year, as the B580, regardless of its problems, is a top seller in all stores and is available without issues.
Considering Nvidia's availability problems, AMD's delay may be its first good move in years.
I'm curious how Intel finishes this year, as the B580, regardless of its problems, is a top seller in all stores and is available without issues.
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It is a minor problem that it shows the entire market including past gens, where some might be more interested in what is selling now.
Look at RDNA3 generation. For a long time, the only AMD dGPU that made the reporting threshold was the XTX. Only towards the end of the gen did some others scrape in, with the rest lumped in the "others" section. NV with their bigger share meant most 40 series models were individually listed, so we have visibility of the relative tier mix.
Some use Mindfactory or Amazon data somehow. While those cover direct sales, it omits what is likely a bigger prebuilt space.
I guess that is another limit of the scope of Steam data. How many GPUs are going to non-gaming uses?
I think there is a big disconnect between those in the general media and the masses that actually buy. Similarly those posting and thus making noise are often over analysing things when they have no intention of buying what they're talking about. I'm guilty of doing that right now.
I would be a buyer of the 5080 if it were available. I really don't get the hate of it. Someone else might love the XTX, but I see no point in buying it myself.
Maybe some regional variation on the B580. It was sold out for a while in UK, and when it reappeared it was above it's headline pricing. Now the B570 is priced where the B580 was. I think there were reports of similar in the US. I guess Intel is too small in the dGPU space to attract the same criticism that Nvidia does.
I see that Mindfactory sales numbers are somehow wrong. I thought they are both, B2B and retail, but all the reports show weirdly high sales of top gaming components. Like the latest news about 9800X3D as the top seller of all CPUs in general. The average market share is still 60%+ of the office computers, and I can't see the 9800X3D anywhere there. It means they only target some specific groups of users, and they are far from the actual market shares.
Amazon is more global, but people buy cheap stuff there, and many sellers have overpriced items, so it's like picking only the reasonably priced stuff at some specific moment.
Steam may not be perfect, but it shows what people actually use for gaming. Some years ago, the most popular gaming graphics was Intel HD. Even though it sounds funny, it's true.
Some see it, and some follow all other lemmings. Sadly, most people follow, and once something is repeated on the web too many times, it becomes the truth. It's impossible to fight with disinformation. I also see that places like Wikipedia are full of BS nowadays.
Even if you don't buy it, then at least you understand how it works; most others just read random stuff on the web, accept it like it is, and later share weird theories.
It's because most models had its premiere mid-Jan. Intel cards had the premiere on the 16th of Jan. This is why you couldn't find them anywhere, and only ASRock and Sparkle cards were in some stores ... in total, 3 models. Now you can find some more, and many stores have them available. I see in stores in Germany, Denmark, and Poland that prices are going down, and cards are widely available. Caseking had an Intel Limited Edition delivery a week ago. Acer is available in some stores, and one more Sparke model, too.
B570 is nothing interesting, as the MSRP isn't so low compared to the B580. It was also released later than the B580 (officially since January).
I feel that people accept the fact that something can be wrong, but at the given price, it's not a big issue for them, so they don't complain (much). It's not a $2k card, so they can live with that.
The biggest problem for me in these Intel cards is high wattage compared to the performance. The B580 has ~190W under load, so about the same as the RTX4070/S (depending on the model). At the same time, the performance is much lower.
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I am fooking sold, 32gb means I can finally run a decent LLM at home even if its slow.(Updated) AMD reportedly working on gaming Radeon RX 9070 XT GPU with 32GB memory - VideoCardz.com
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Useless for gamers... but that 1% who run languages models tho...AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Could Get a 32 GB GDDR6 Upgrade
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AMD is reportedly working on an RX 9070 XT GPU, featuring 32 GB GDDR6 VRAM. This card is supposedly coming in the first half of 2025.
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Don't forget the moddersUseless for gamers... but that 1% who run languages models tho...
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Oh, another 1%! Good point.Don't forget the modders
We can really pass 16GB at 1440 these days (I'd argue it's not or barely a 4K/60/U card), eh? Crazy.
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Ok so a 9070 XT is not being offered with 32gb, but perhaps it will be offered under a different brand or name? Could be a 32gb Radeon Pro, could be a 9070 XTX, hell maybe 9070 XT AI?
He did not say they are not releasing a 32gb card just it wont be called an XT
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Agreed. The wording Frank used is very specific, so anything outside of that could still happen. Or not. Marketing.
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