AMD RDNA4 Information...Pre/Post Launch

[mackerel]

Nice to see they finally closed the gap and takes away one reason for not going AMD.

Would also like to have seen how they compare at higher settings, as IMO you'd have to drop DLSS to performance for it to start looking like FSR 2.x quality. So I've never really considered using the lower quality settings myself. I don't recall FSR3.0 being really any better than 2.x when it came out, but more recent exposure to FSR3.1 did look better already.

I hope all forward looking games will support it, and other upscalers/FG. If I'm not mis-remembering, didn't AMD say at some point you could inject FSR4 into a suitably recent FSR3.x game? In a similar way Nvidia can update the DLSS model used to the newer one, or to add MFG to games supporting original FG.

 

[Kenrou]

If I'm not mis-remembering, didn't AMD say at some point you could inject FSR4 into a suitably recent FSR3.x game? In a similar way Nvidia can update the DLSS model used to the newer one, or to add MFG to games supporting original FG.

Check out GitHub for a program called DLSS Swapper, deals with DLSS, FSR and XeSS.

 

[Dolk]

There is probably hardware requirements for FSR4. It probably will run on older hardware but it won't work as efficiently, just like DLSS.

 

[mackerel]

Check out GitHub for a program called DLSS Swapper, deals with DLSS, FSR and XeSS.

Could be interesting to try that later. Still, I think for the masses they wouldn't do that. Even manufacturer provided software might be the limit.

There is probably hardware requirements for FSR4. It probably will run on older hardware but it won't work as efficiently, just like DLSS.

Did RDNA3 or earlier have AI focused processing? Specifically the smaller data types to increase throughput. Otherwise you're going to have much less potential if you stick to the likes of FP16. As for DLSS, was there a notable difference throughout the stack? Lower model GPU, fewer tensor cores, but they'll likely be running at a lower render resolution anyway, so it kinda scales itself?

 

[mackerel]

Resistance is Futile - AMD RX 9070 Borg Armada - OcUK Kings of Stock (1000's in stock)

Hi there As Sapphire jumped the gun with our content (TUT TUT), I might as well share with you guys the Borg Cube Overclockers UK marketing department spent hours building out of Sapphire 9070 XT Pulse Cards and yes the cube is solid, the centre is even more 9070 XT Pulse cards and we have over...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

OCUK have thousands of 9070s ready to go tomorrow.

1000+ Sapphire 9070 XT Pulse £569, plus others from Sapphire
1000+ each from PowerColor, Asrock (various models?)
"several hundreds" from Gigabyte, Asus

We may assume other major retailers might also have substantial levels. You can have any GPU you want, as long as it is team red!

 

[EarthDog]

Resistance is Futile - AMD RX 9070 Borg Armada - OcUK Kings of Stock (1000's in stock)

Hi there As Sapphire jumped the gun with our content (TUT TUT), I might as well share with you guys the Borg Cube Overclockers UK marketing department spent hours building out of Sapphire 9070 XT Pulse Cards and yes the cube is solid, the centre is even more 9070 XT Pulse cards and we have over...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

OCUK have thousands of 9070s ready to go tomorrow.

1000+ Sapphire 9070 XT Pulse £569, plus others from Sapphire
1000+ each from PowerColor, Asrock (various models?)
"several hundreds" from Gigabyte, Asus

We may assume other major retailers might also have substantial levels. You can have any GPU you want, as long as it is team red!

This. I feel like you can wake up late, like Friday late, and still get these locally or online. Maybe, lol.

I haven't read a whole review, so I have some catching up to do. I get the vibes that it was lackluster raster improvement, but good RT uplift. Improvements in FG and FSR, too.

I hope this forces NV's hand sooner than later.

 

[mackerel]

This. I feel like you can wake up late, like Friday late, and still get these locally or online. Maybe, lol.

One UK retailer has thousands. There's a handful of other major retailers, which if they also have similar, we could be into 5 digit supply for the country. Wouldn't be surprised if they outsell all 50 series, at least in the short term.

I haven't read a whole review, so I have some catching up to do. I get the vibes that it was lackluster raster improvement, but good RT uplift. Improvements in FG and FSR, too.

Raster is comparable to previous gen flagship, RT is improved, but still behind team green. FSR4 is looking promising.

Looking at UK pricing, the XT is starting £569, compared to the MSRP 5070 Ti at £730 for similar raster perf level. Is the extra 28% going to team green worth it for better RT and arguably better software stack/support? FSR4 will further eat into DLSS advantage.

I hope this forces NV's hand sooner than later.

I feel like NV just had delays in manufacturing, but they didn't want to delay the announce so had to follow through regardless. They got the opening keynote at CES, and if you take away GPUs, what do they have left? I'm sure they'll catch up over time.

 

[Kenrou]

"AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT/ RX 9070 Review vs RTX 5070 Ti/ RTX 5070 - Is RDNA 4 Truly Competitive?"

"After poor reviews for the RTX 5070, AMD is back with RDNA 4, with RX 9070 XT and RX 9700 designed to take the fight to Nvidia at the mainstream level. Can the XT deliver better value than 5070 Ti? And with the 5070 looking vulnerable, surely the 9070 is AMD's biggest opportunity to grab market share in years?"

 

[Niku-Sama]

of the reviews i've seen it seems like that the titles where theres a wider gap that it could see driver fixes in the future make up that gap.
but most of them are pretty close, especially considering its $150 less on the XT models

i'm disappointment that some of the beefier 9070 cards use 12vHP plugs though...
i'm still going to wait and see when they get into peoples hands just to be safe but maybe?

if you were going to grab one, which manufacturer would you go with?

 

[Woomack]

i'm disappointment that some of the beefier 9070 cards use 12vHP plugs though...
i'm still going to wait and see when they get into peoples hands just to be safe but maybe?

Probably because they don't want to use 3x 8 pins and the 9070XT uses almost as much power as the 7900XTX, so spikes over 450W. I also noticed that new cards barely use PCIe slots for power in continuous load, so it's mainly going from the connectors on the top.

 

[Kenrou]

"Taking a look at Sapphire implementation of the 12V High Failure connector on the RX 9070 XT Nitro+"

 

[Woomack]

For many people, standard 8-pin connectors will be the reason to pick AMD. It's hard to say if the 16-pin option will sell well. Probably yes, but more because of problems with availability or prices. We will see in the upcoming weeks.
Btw, I see that the power adapters on the RTX5070 and RTX5070Ti sit much higher than on the previous series. It's not so easy to push them, so they lock properly, and you have to use some force to remove them. The power connector during Steel Nomad test (multiple runs) didn't pass 32°C on my RTX5070Ti.

 

[mackerel]

I missed a detail yesterday where I linked the UK supplier with thousands of cards ready to go.

MSRP is capped quantity of a few hundred, so prices will jump once those are sold through.

So AIBs are doing the same trick with AMD as Nvidia? Wonder what the "normal" price is then. If you're looking for the lower pricing I guess you need to try earlier than later.

 

[JLK03F150]

if you were going to grab one, which manufacturer would you go with?

Bestbuy only has XFX cards listed this morning. Personally I'd like to go PowerColor or Sapphire.

 

[67Elco]

Bestbuy only has XFX cards listed this morning. Personally I'd like to go PowerColor or Sapphire.

Same here...looking to snag a White card, a first for me. Newegg just updated their search engine, but no cards displayed yet.

 

[mackerel]

Looking at 9070XT at two UK sellers:
Scan had 3 models at MSRP plus another two above that (didn't look higher). All sold out within 4 minutes.
OCUK showed one model at MSRP available slightly early. Website went unresponsive and still hasn't recovered.

People still want their GPUs!

Edit: OCUK site back but very slow, still showing in stock.

Edit 2: 20 mins in. Scan now show some models in stock, £100 over MSRP. OCUK is now behind Cloudflare queue.

 

[67Elco]

Passed on a Powercolor from Newegg because it was the OC model...missed the White Sapphire Pulse.

 

[EarthDog]

The MC local to me has HUNDREDS available this moment.

 

[unsafesteagle]

If there's good supply , next week most likely at this point

 

[JLK03F150]

Same here...looking to snag a White card, a first for me. Newegg just updated their search engine, but no cards displayed yet.

I just bought a PowerColor Red Devil on newegg. Delivery is the 12th. We will see if it holds true.