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Naming scheme update.. 9070XT instead of 8X00...??? Rumor...


Not 8800 XT & Not 9800 XT, The Next-Gen AMD RDNA 4 Flagship Is Allegedly Called The Radeon RX 9070 XT, New RX 9000 Branding Is Revealed
They also reiterate ~4080 raster perf. and 45% RT uplift over 7900XTX.
 
They also reiterate ~4080 raster perf. and 45% RT uplift over 7900XTX.
The 45% RT is based on one game with no details on settings etc. It'll likely vary a lot depending on how heavily games use RT. Looking at TPU's 7900XTX review for RT perf, CP2077 gave biggest delta in RT perf between it and 4080, also about +45% to reach 4080. Edit: forgot to say I think it good if AMD RT perf increases relative to raster, as it may encourage devs to use it more going forwards and not hold back, although for cross platform the consoles remain an anchor.

If the top model's number will be 9070 that is also interesting, since it is two tiers down from "9". During current gen I'd argue AMD did suffer naming inflation at the high end, with their "9" being closer to an NV "8". Two possibilities are, they are dropping 2 tiers and perf will be lower than this rumour/leak. Or, they are realigning their tier number to where they expect NV to be. 9070 vs 5070. It's over 9000! Must be good. Based on historic trends and not any rumours, 5070 could be generally around 4080 in perf, so they would be playing in the same ball park.
 
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I think it good if AMD RT perf increases relative to raster, as it may encourage devs to use it more going forwards and not hold back, although for cross platform the consoles remain an anchor.
Sure. It also shows the momentum RT has and that they are, seemingly, focused on improving it so much. You'd think if they didn't have any faith in it's ever increasing use, they'd focus on other things.

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Claim that RDNA4, FSR4 and remaining 9000X3D will be announced at same time, late January. Not sure about that, because does that leave anything big for AMD to say at CES?

If various claimed timings are correct, we should see 5080 announced at CES with availability mid-Jan. Unclear if other models will be mentioned in depth at the time, specifically 5090 is expected to follow later. 9070 wouldn't have next gen competition immediately as we'd have to see when 5070 happens. Still any info they can get about 5070 before 9070 launch could help them optimise their pricing position.

FSR4 will be interesting as AMD finally catches up to DLSS and XeSS with a ML based upscaler, which will hopefully address the image quality problems of existing FSR implementations. Not mentioned here, but think I saw claims somewhere in the past it might be tied to specific AMD hardware, at least initially. So not a universal offering like FSR has been.

Sure. It also shows the momentum RT has and that they are, seemingly, focused on improving it so much. You'd think if they didn't have any faith in it's ever increasing use, they'd focus on other things.
I think AMD always did see its use, but didn't or couldn't put the effort in earlier to have as good an implementation. It takes time since they are reactive, not proactive, in driving gaming features forward. Have they introduced anything of note that wasn't implemented by Nvidia first, then take a year or two before they play catch up? Usually with a technically inferior solution.

Looking at that tweet, up to $649, but they equate 9070 XT to 7900 XT, not XTX. Yet other leaker has it at XTX/4080 level. So there is quite some uncertainty there.
 
It was more of a nod towards users who think otherwise, than AMD. That was poorly worded on my end. :)
 

Another rumor. Limited info (one synthetic test only).

...it better be cheap and have comparable RT if that's true.
 
Not sure i buy this...



... not sure what to think when thousands were literally shipped and in BnM warehouses at least a week ago.

'Make sure you flash the bios to the latest version?' if they are still tweaking???

What is going on, AMD? We need your card in the market....
 
They couldn't make it in the last two years, but they will make it in a month? It's more about the prices and competition than improving products already in stores. They can only improve drivers. New graphics cards are almost always locked and can't be flashed easily by end-users. Also, I highly doubt that most of the available graphics card brands will prepare any BIOS/firmware in the upcoming month (even if it exists, but I doubt). I know what was with all the failed motherboard premieres. AMD repeats itself once again.
 

Soon? Announce late Feb for March availability seems plausible.
 

Soon? Announce late Feb for March availability seems plausible.
I really can't wait for these to see what they do to the market.

So, I can't share, but ive seen prices for a specific brand's stack...what do people think is a fair price (list expected performance for that price)???

I.e... if ~4080 performance $xxx would be fair....
 
I hope for the $550 for an RX 9070 XT that I read about a while back, but I wouldn't mind paying up to $650 provided it is competitive against the RTX 5070 Ti.
Of course I'd like to see the reviews for both before making a decision.
 
Price I think AMD could position if the RDNA4 GPU equals following Nvidia models for both raster and RT perf: (NOT what I'd pay for an AMD GPU, which would be even lower.)
5080 level: 850
5070 Ti level: 650
5070 level: 500

If RT is still lacking, then knock a bit more off. This assumes base model, and more expensive AIB models may exist. This is forward looking only. I haven't tried to take into consideration relative pricing with AMD's outgoing generation. The die size estimate combined with newer node than NV means this could actually cost AMD more to make than the 5080 die. If the perf is lacking and they have to sell it cheap, I think they'd rather just constrain supply than take low margins. This is not a "growth" generation for them. If these are perf competitive at 5070 Ti level or higher, then pricing could float higher in short term while NV are in severe constraint.
 
Wasn't it supposed to be...?
If by "growth" y'all mean "gain market share", that's exactly what AMD says they a pursuing with this gen.
Got some references?

I found an old interview from September last year with Jack Huynh, and the CES press interview. Both have some vague noises they're going to offer something competitive for the masses and would like to grow, but I don't read that as a clear statement on increasing market share in the near term. My statement was more based on what little we currently know about the product. The top version wont be cheap to manufacture, so I think that'll hinder them in aggressive pricing. I'm sure AMD knows more than I do about what their next product does, but I can only go on what little we've got so far. Plus what they're saying may be more marketing/investor focused. It'll be great if I'm wrong!
 
vague noises they're going to offer something competitive for the masses and would like to grow, but I don't read that as a clear statement on increasing market share in the near term.
I dont know what else that would mean.... 😀

I think Jack Huynh said it. I vaguely recall 40-50% was their goal. This was back in early September....all the major outlets covered it as I recall.

Edit: ...it was said during a QnA session at IFA 2024 Berlin.

 
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