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I feel the 7600X/7700X with a B650E will be a better value proposition for the casual gamer. The X670 features and cost are just overkill for my purposes at least.
20C is a big drop... wow.
I agree... but, the problem is 99.999999999999999999% if PC users don't have the chutzpah to run bare die. It's an extreme enthusiast thing because of how fragile the setup is and the increased risk of the entire process. For the average user, what's the tangible takeaway?Seriously. I don't understand why Intel and AMD talk up their IHS improvement game when bare-die continues to show seemingly increasing performance gains to lidded.
That's still there... 7950X is not.
I agree... but, the problem is 99.999999999999999999% if PC users don't have the chutzpah to run bare die. It's an extreme enthusiast thing because of how fragile the setup is and the increased risk of the entire process. For the average user, what's the tangible takeaway?
That has absolutely been the issue.I agree. But it just seems odd that on Coffee Lake the IHS temp improvement was 10-15C or so, and now we're looking at 20C? Only thing I can think of is that the power densities keep going up making it harder to get the heat out.
Newegg canada had stock same zs canada computers.I was checking after midnight. I have an in stock notification set for best buy
Nice review Johan..... looking forward to an upgrade. I'm in the middle of moving so no playtime till I get settled in early November.If you're asking about base processor speed, there was a discrepancy between the AMD site and the press kit. As you see I went with the press kit info. From what I have seen the base speed is irrelevant. Every CPU I had and I have seen in other reviews today boosted to 5.2 GHz under quite heavy benchmarks.
There were some suggestions from AMD that 3D cache CPUs will be released at the beginning of the next year (around March). Of course, it may change. If Intel releases something that causes AMD problems, we may see it earlier than expected.I can haz 7700X3D some day?
ECO mode seems to work great on these for lowering temps and keeping good efficiency if you're cooling limited. Or just let the built in thermal management handle things.
Actually, 95°C is a throttle point for the last couple of series, the same for AMD and Intel. It doesn't matter how hot the CPU is as long as it's stable. AMD 5900X/5950X and even 5800X are running at 90°C+ on most available coolers, so it's not a big difference.Great review! All I can say is the king CPU still is the 5800X3D. lol Beating all these CPUs in some of the game titles. Any ways these new CPU are impressive just not sure if I can go that route due to the termals.
Not IF I have to have an LN2 tank in my office. I am heavily considering the the13900K route because of that. Plus the 24-cores for Unreal Engine, Blender, Unity Engine, etc... sounds nice. Now AMD 7000 series have really nice pure performance I'm just worried about the heat. I will be running on an air cooler, not an AIO so yet kind of sucky even though I have a 280mm aio.That depends on your uses really. You've seen the benchmarks, you understand your workflow (or gaming). Is what you've seen worth it?
The feels, and how much do I want to play with new toys... that's even less up to others! How the heck do I know if that's worth it? I just know the metrics!The difficult part is my rig is sufficient unto my needs, probably indefinitly. But I'm a few generations behind now and as much as reading about tech is fun, it's so much better to get hands-on time with the parts. Like 'a surgeon that would still give you a bottle of whiskey and a leather belt to chomp on while he cuts off your leg' type falling behind. Decisions aren't always about work flow in PCs. It's just simply fun. Oh yeah, and expensive.
one thing i am still trying to wrap my head around, is why is 512bit instructions done as 256x2. i think they talked bout this on NG, seems in single core test in cinebench it was behind intel. yet when it was in mutli core it smashed it, so how does that = faster in multi core at 256x2. different way to do the same thing, they got what they were after really. they smashed intel pretty well in multi core benchmarks and some about even with intel.