Thanks Outhouse, but how can I get to the 30s if the chip is already over 40°C even when it's not overclocked?? I have about six fans built in. Were talking Athlon here not Pentium! A friend of mine has a 933 MHz Pentium III which runs at 31°C when not overclocked...though he has also built in a lot of fans....and that water cooling isn't kids stuff. I think it's a long short to try and get into the 30s.