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Any thoughts on MSI PSUs?
- Thread starter Dolk
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I dont' recall who the OEM is, but I thought they reviewed well...they aren't SF/Seasonic, but, they'll do. it would help to know which exactly as some are better than others.
Here's a quick review I found on google for the MAG series - https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10546/msi-mag-a850gl-850-watt-80-plus-gold-atx-3-0-psu/index.html
Here's a quick review I found on google for the MAG series - https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10546/msi-mag-a850gl-850-watt-80-plus-gold-atx-3-0-psu/index.html
The way I see it, the days of exploding PSUs are more or less gone, other than a faulty model here and there. If it's the right wattage, and has some reviews, it will power up your system.
Seasonic is pretty much the gold standard. Best reliability, low fan noise, best "PSU metrics" like rail stability, inrush current, etc etc (But those things don't affect how your system runs)
Corsair older models 2015-2021 were also good, on newer models they cut corners. RMe series for example has loud fan noise. But my experience with RMx / HX / HXi was good. You will also have readily available cables and other things like USB monitoring.
Seasonic is pretty much the gold standard. Best reliability, low fan noise, best "PSU metrics" like rail stability, inrush current, etc etc (But those things don't affect how your system runs)
Corsair older models 2015-2021 were also good, on newer models they cut corners. RMe series for example has loud fan noise. But my experience with RMx / HX / HXi was good. You will also have readily available cables and other things like USB monitoring.
I don't think I saw any PSU from a known brand that is rated at 80+ Gold and causes problems. I also don't think any brand would give a 5-year warranty or more on a product they don't trust. If I'm right, all higher MSI PSUs have a warranty of 7-10 years.
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I got recommended a MSI MPG A850G for my current gaming system and no problems with it so far. I forget exactly what my stated criteria were at the time other than I wanted a good build unit without paying silly amounts. Then again, I've bought cheap branded PSUs (e.g. Corsair CX) and not had any long term problems with them either. The last time I had a problem with a PSU would be going back decades on unknown brand units.
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I've been using a Corssair 1200W for a long time. I've had it for a really long time. Wouldn't change it if it wasn't for the HP12V that I'll need.
Right now it seems like Thermaltake, Seasonic, and MSI are the only ones doing dual HP12V. I might skip trying to get a long term PSU and get something thats good for now until someone finally does the right thing and start putting two HP12Vs on their GPUs. At that point the other side band signals may be used and that will cause people to buy another PSU.
Right now it seems like Thermaltake, Seasonic, and MSI are the only ones doing dual HP12V. I might skip trying to get a long term PSU and get something thats good for now until someone finally does the right thing and start putting two HP12Vs on their GPUs. At that point the other side band signals may be used and that will cause people to buy another PSU.
High FSP models are good, not too expensive, and have double 12V-2x6 connectors like this one -> click
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I'll check that out here in the states.
My concern is that newer GPU models will start to use the sideband signalling in the HP12V connectors for self identification. I doubt we'll see that take shape in the consumer market, as usually these kind of sideband activities are for security, but you never know. TPM became a hard requirement in 2 gens of CPUs.
You know what, thats a silly thought. After finally putting it to paper, I see that this may never happen within consumer world. Consumer world would continue to use the side bands to self identify TDP and thats it. The PCIe slot will handle the rest for identification and security. So I think it would be safe to buy a PSU with 2x HP12V to handle 10+ yr planning.
You know what, thats a silly thought. After finally putting it to paper, I see that this may never happen within consumer world. Consumer world would continue to use the side bands to self identify TDP and thats it. The PCIe slot will handle the rest for identification and security. So I think it would be safe to buy a PSU with 2x HP12V to handle 10+ yr planning.
I may need an additional 1kW PSU, and since this thread was started, I have been browsing some options. There are new SuperFlower PSUs at a reasonable price and the new Phanteks Revolt. Seasonic does it for Phanteks, but Phanteks generally looks better than any Seasonic and is cheaper for some reason. I would order Phanteks, but they are not giving cables and my local stores have mixed old and new models under the same name, and I have no idea what they really have available.
I was thinking about this SuperFlower model - click. There is also the new and cheaper series, but 80+ Gold. It still has 2x 12V-2x6 connectors (native or mixed with 2x8pin->12V-2x6). Here is one of the models.
MSI PSUs from the higher series are all sold out in my area, or some stores put ridiculous prices on them (much higher than they are supposed to be), so no one buys them.
All the mentioned brands have a 7-10 year warranty on all 80+ Gold and higher models.
I was thinking about this SuperFlower model - click. There is also the new and cheaper series, but 80+ Gold. It still has 2x 12V-2x6 connectors (native or mixed with 2x8pin->12V-2x6). Here is one of the models.
MSI PSUs from the higher series are all sold out in my area, or some stores put ridiculous prices on them (much higher than they are supposed to be), so no one buys them.
All the mentioned brands have a 7-10 year warranty on all 80+ Gold and higher models.
One more new PSU - FSP MEGA TI 1650W. It can be expensive, but I haven't seen it in stores yet. Somehow, I missed it while browsing the product list in the last days, but my contact mentioned it as a new product -> product page.
I have 3 FSP PSUs running on my PCs and have never had problems with them.
I have 3 FSP PSUs running on my PCs and have never had problems with them.
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This looks like a better overall solution for what I'm looking for. The 1350W looks really nice. Good size, low count perph so that it can maximize PCIe and CPU rails. I like.
Can't seem to find it being sold anywhere though :/
Can't seem to find it being sold anywhere though :/
The linked one is the new version released recently, so I think it will be in stores in a few weeks. I have this in one of my test PCs, but I guess it's also not easy to find.
It's a review item. It came directly from them, but not bought... and "will be in stores in a few weeks" according to his post(s).
What do you mean? Any modern (like the last decade) PSU throws nearly all of the output on the 12V rail anyway.
Yes, it's designed for the most demanding gaming PCs with the latest graphics cards or multiple cards for more professional workstation builds. It's actually described in the product's key features. They still have the server and other product lines for other purposes.
I guess it's the same priority as every modern 1kW+ PSU (excluding maybe typical servers). All brands prioritize 12V as barely anyone uses devices that need 3.3V, and 5V is more for USB than anything else. HDDs and SATA, in general, are dead on home/office PCs. I don't remember when I needed a SATA power cable for anything else than a liquid cooling pump.
I guess it's the same priority as every modern 1kW+ PSU (excluding maybe typical servers). All brands prioritize 12V as barely anyone uses devices that need 3.3V, and 5V is more for USB than anything else. HDDs and SATA, in general, are dead on home/office PCs. I don't remember when I needed a SATA power cable for anything else than a liquid cooling pump.
It's more like you're making **** up, lol. Like Bart said, USB is on 3.3/5V, and SATA is on 12V. They (SATA, CPU, and GPU) all still share the same, now typically single, 12V rail. You're welcome to shed some light on these low level (and suddenly irrlevant, lol) details if we're missing something.
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I'm an engineer that spends most of his development time optimizing things. I've worked with all sorts of electrical engineers for all segments of a x86 system. I know how budget costs make engineers focus on certain things. I'd trust the 12V planes of a PSU that has less auxiliary power outputs than a PSU that has more aux power outputs. I'm one of them, I know lol.
Is it small details, yes. Do I care if you care about my small details things, no.
Is it small details, yes. Do I care if you care about my small details things, no.
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