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Anyone here use Dvorak?

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went I first looked at the link, I couldn't tell if all the letters were there. That would screw me up. I know how to type because I have finger memory, I know where the keys should be on the keyboard. That would drive me nuts. What's the benefits for the other layout?
 
Dvorak is the name of the guy who came up with the layout. QWERTY was implemented as a method of slowing down fast typists who would sometimes end up jamming their old mechanical typewriters. Dvorak is much more sensibly laid out, with the ability (if one gets it into finger memory, that is) to have much higher typing rates.

I'd love to learn Dvorak, but having the keys on my keyboard still in QWERTY would screw me up really bad if I forgot where a key was :D
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I would attempt to use Dvorak (if only to confuse people who try to use my computer) but my keyboard has keys that aren't interchangeable (the F and J keys don't fit anywhere else, etc etc), so much for THAT idea... :/
 
I've been using it for a few months. I used to be able to do about 70wpm on QWERTY (after about two years of use), and now I can do about 60wpm on dvorak, but it's much easier, and I have less typos. The only problem is when I have to use Macs at school, where dvorak keyboards cannot be enabled, and the computers of anyone other than me.

It's also a bit annoying when I accidently look at the keyboard because I type the wrong key if I do that. It's not a big problem I'll be painting my keyboard soon, though, so that problem should be gone soon.

EDIT: Use the ABCD: Basic Course in Dvorak to learn.
 
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hahaha i was gonna ask the same question.

i dont. Im ambidextrious and can type 182wpm (YES WORD not letter)

Hey, why not get one of those OLD keyboards where the caps pop off...switch em around...and learn that way?
 
tom10167 said:
I had a feeling. I say we go find Mr. QWERTY and beat him up.

Not sure if you know this or not.. But look at the top left of your keyboard at the letters.

Its not a man's name.

And some companies still use DVorak.
 
Give it a try if you are so inclined. But the advantages of the Dvorak layout over QUERTY don't seem to be that substantial.

Evidence Against Dvorak

Naturally, these false results were going to get found out. As many businesses and government agencies contemplated changing keyboards in the mid 1950s, the General Services Administration commissioned Strong's study to confirm the earlier results. This study provides the most compelling evidence against the Dvorak keyboard. It was a carefully controlled experiment designed to examine the costs and benefits of switching to Dvorak. It unreservedly concluded that retraining typists on Dvorak was inferior to retraining on QWERTY.

In the first phase of the experiment, 10 government typists were retrained on the Dvorak keyboard. It took well over 25 days of four-hour-a-day training for these typists to catch up to their old QWERTY speeds. (Compare this to the Navy study's results.) When the typists had finally caught up to their old speeds, the second phase of the experiment began. The newly trained Dvorak typists continued training and a group of 10 QWERTY typists (matched in skill to the Dvorak typists) began a parallel program to improve their skills. In this second phase the Dvorak typists progressed less quickly with further Dvorak training than did QWERTY typists training on QWERTY keyboards. Thus Strong concluded that Dvorak training would never be able to amortize its costs. He recommended instead that the government provide further training in the QWERTY keyboard for QWERTY typists.

The GSA study attempted to control carefully for the abilities and treatments of the two groups. The study design directly paralleled the decision that a real firm or a real government agency might face: Is it worthwhile to retrain its present typists? If Strong's study is correct, it is not efficient for current typists to switch to Dvorak. The study also implied that the eventual typing speed would be greater with QWERTY than with Dvorak, although this conclusion was not emphasized.

Much of the other evidence that has been used to support Dvorak's superiority actually can be used to make a case against Dvorak. We have the 1953 Australian Post Office study already mentioned, which needed to remove psychological impediments to superior performance. A 1973 study based on six typists at Western Electric found that after 104 hours of training on Dvorak, typists were 2.6 percent faster than they had been on QWERTY. Similarly, a 1978 study at Oregon State University indicated that after 100 hours of training, typists were up to 97.6 percent of their old QWERTY speed. Both of these retraining times are similar to those reported by Strong but not to those in the Navy study. But unlike Strong's study neither of these studies included parallel retraining on QWERTY keyboards. As Strong points out, even experienced QWERTY typists increase their speed on QWERTY if they are given additional training.

http://reason.com/9606/Fe.QWERTY.shtml
 
JigPu said:
QWERTY was implemented as a method of slowing down fast typists who would sometimes end up jamming their old mechanical typewriters. Dvorak is much more sensibly laid out, with the ability (if one gets it into finger memory, that is) to have much higher typing rates.
JigPu

I'm going to agree/disagree. It moves keys so that the hammers don't get tangled but I'm not sure it was done to specifically slow down typing. QWERTY is still good because keys that arent used very often are usally in the harder to access spots. (ex qzxy).

The keyboards I think are stupid are the AZERTY keyboards.
 
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