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[Arstechnica] - AMD first generation HBM cards will be limited at 4GB VRAM

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Janus67

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http://arstechnica.com/information-...nfirms-4gb-limit-for-first-hbm-graphics-card/

AMD's just taken the wraps off its shiny new high bandwidth memory (HBM) technology, and as rumoured, the company is limited to a total of 4GB for its first-generation HBM product. While AMD has yet to reveal specifics of what that product might be, it did tell us that it'll be a GPU, it'll be priced towards the higher end of the spectrum, and that you'll be able to walk into a store and buy one within "the next couple of months." The rumour mill strongly suggests that this first HBM part will be the R9 390X.

The reason for the 4GB restriction for the company's upcoming GPU is due to the first-generation HBM design. HBM uses stacked memory chips along with a silicon interposer and through-silicon-vias (an interconnect that runs through the chip from top to bottom) in order to move the DRAM closer to the GPU. This shortens the traces, allowing for increased bandwidth and lower power consumption. Currently, those chips can only be stacked four dies high. With each die limited to 2Gbit, each stack is one gigabyte. AMD's current design only allows for four stacks around the GPU, limiting the system to four gigabytes.

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It's not entirely clear why the company has been limited to four stacks of memory for its first-generation product. If AMD is sticking with its GCN 1.1 architecture for the launch of HBM, the physical die size of the GPU may have had something to do with it. It could also simply be down to cost. HBM, while cheaper than rival stacked memory technology Hybrid Memory Cube (HMC), is still likely to be pricier than the equivalent DRAM, making eight stacks impractical. Regardless, a leaked set of slides from HBM manufacturer Hynix alleges that second-generation HBM will double capacity to 2GB per stack, allowing for graphics cards with 8GB of RAM in the future.

While 4GB of memory is common for even high-end graphics cards these days, video games like GTA V are slowly but surely eating their way through it. That's especially true for games running at higher resolutions like 2560×1440 and 4K, where larger textures need to be moved in and out of memory. The 4GB limit also makes HBM a less than ideal solution for the workstation market, where GPU rendering must be held entirely within the the memory buffer. Nvidia currently offers graphics cards with 12GB of memory in the form of the £900 ($1000) Titan X and even pricier Quadro M6000. AMD's flagship R9 290X tops out at 8GB, but is substantially cheaper at around £380 ($469).


I can't say that I'm surprised, I would believe that the cost of these chips can't be cheap and in order to keep the costs as low as possible putting 4GB on a card is fine for 99% of users.
 
I agree. With HBM2 around the corner next year perhaps AMD will try to get the most out of the 4G of HBM1. Probably will hurt them in the perception department vs a TitanX 12 G DDR5 card.
 
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