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Ok. Thanks.

I really think we keep getting back to the same kind of argument with this Nvidia vs AMD. Nvidia values RT/DLSS and charges more for access to them.

For people like me who have 0 games that have RT, I dont use upscaling, and most of the games I play are RTS or 4x with lots of mods (mostly 3d assets, models, and textures) V-RAM is actually very valuable to me.

So, the argument that Nvidia is better because it has RT and DLSS and even if my usecase does not benefit from them, I will in the future, falls kinda flat to me. I wont benefit now or in the next 2-3 years from nvidia's features.

I think that is kinda Haider's point in this thread too. He is not saying AMD has a better card, he is saying that AMD's features have more direct value to him. Just like the X3D and RT/DLSS have more value to you.

You are happy paying that premium because you benefit. Like e-cores for me, RT/DLSS only have value to me if they are "free" as in P-Core/Threads to Zen Cores/Threads or Raster/Price with graphics.

A good example is a 7900XT vs 4070 TI Super. Both are around the same price but the 4070 TI Super tends to average about $100 more than the 7900XT. They generally offer similar raster performance with the 7900XT having a slight edge over all. In my specific use case paying an extra $100 for the Nvidia card would actuall end up in a worse user experience.

The 7900XT is not better or worse, its just better for my use case, and offers a better value for my use case.

As I have argued before, I wont default suggest either MFG unless the person is looking for specific funcionality or has games/applications that specifically benefit from the feature set of nvidia or AMD.

I dont know that I have ever seen you suggest that maybe an AMD card might offer more value to anyone. And thats fine because you clearly value RT/DLSS, but I think applying that value to everyone is an error.
 
I mean, this is great... but, tell me something new. :)

I often don't suggest AMD cards because, generally, people have RT games in their library (among the other benefits listed previously). 'Edge cases' don't make the norm. Unless they specifically say they won't ever use it, makes sense (to me).

Some do and some don't find value in RT and that's fine too, but there are other reasons to get NV over AMD even w/o RT considerations and pay the premium. I don't think they need a white knight... just like i don't think a guy asking about soft tube watrercooling values a post that says use air (I live in a glass house, I know, LOL). :)
 
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I mean, this is great... but, tell me something new. :)

I often don't suggest AMD cards because, generally, people have RT games in their library. 'Edge cases' doesn't make the norm. Unless they specifically say they won't ever use it, makes sense (to me).

Some don't and some don't find value in RT and that's fine too, but there are other reasons to get NV over AMD even w/o RT considerations and pay the premium. I don't think they need a white knight... just like i don't think a guy asking about soft tube watrercooling values a post that says use air (I live in a glass house, I know, LOL). :)

I feel like every time we litigate this we get a better understanding of our own reasoning and eachother's.
 
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