ASUS X870E ProArt Release Date.

[wade7575]

I was just wondering if anyone can tell me when the ASUS X870E ProArt is supposed to be released or seen a release date for it,I have been watching and haven't seen one yet,I know ASUS is supposed to be releasing 1 X870E mobo on Sept 30th but they haven't announced the rest yet from what I can see.

I hope they aren't planning on stretching it out into 2025 that would really suck.

 

[Woomack]

They will probably release all models already presented on Sept 30, but it's hard to say if the ProArt will be in the first delivery batch as it's not selling as well as the Strix or Crosshair series. The target users are also not the first in the queue for upgrades.
There are 10 X870/E motherboards listed on the ASUS website and marked as New. There is no ProArt, so it's hard to say if it will be released in the first or second month after the premiere, but since it was already presented, it's ready and will be for sure this year.

 

[wade7575]

@Woomack When you say there are 10 mobo's listed I only see 3 in this link that I got from the ASUS website,they seem to be listing the ProArt here but they call it Creator and then call it the ProArt X870E-Creator when you click on it the Creator mobo.


https://www.asus.com/searchresult?searchType=products&searchKey=X870E&page=1

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I'd like to get the ProArt because it has 3 PCI slots and I wouldn't care about spending a bit more to get an ASUS mobo sooner that is an X870E if it still 3 PCI slots.

 

[Woomack]

@Woomack When you say there are 10 mobo's listed I only see 3 in this link that I got from the ASUS website,they seem to be listing the ProArt here but they call it Creator and then call it the ProArt X870E-Creator when you click on it the Creator mobo.


https://www.asus.com/searchresult?searchType=products&searchKey=X870E&page=1

Post magically merged: Sep 5, 2024

I'd like to get the ProArt because it has 3 PCI slots and I wouldn't care about spending a bit more to get an ASUS mobo sooner that is an X870E if it still 3 PCI slots.

Enter ASUS.com and browse the X870 motherboards in the motherboards section. It shows 10 X870/X870E models, but only 2 are X870E, and the ProArt is not there. It suggests it will be released later, but nothing is guaranteed until you see it listed in stores.

 

[Railgun]

Enter ASUS.com and browse the X870 motherboards in the motherboards section. It shows 10 X870/X870E models, but only 2 are X870E, and the ProArt is not there. It suggests it will be released later, but nothing is guaranteed until you see it listed in stores.

Is here…

 

[Woomack]

Yes, but that's the point. You have to dig deeper to find it, like it was added a bit later and isn't on the "first batch list". Some days ago, only Strix and Crosshair were on the list, and to check other models, you had to go through the website link under the banner or the search option. It is just what I see, and it doesn't have to be correct, as ASUS is known to have a mess on its website.

Btw. I don't get all the Creator mobo series, as in general, they're not any different from gaming series, aside from the name and heatsink design. I'm not talking only about ASUS but in general. Typically, they're no better than mid-shelf options, but marketing pushes them as something for professionals.

 

[EarthDog]

Btw. I don't get all the Creator mobo series, as in general, they're not any different from gaming series, aside from the name and heatsink design. I'm not talking only about ASUS but in general. Typically, they're no better than mid-shelf options, but marketing pushes them as something for professionals.

I don't disagree.

On this board, it's the connectivity that's different... IIRC, it comes with TB/USB4 and may have faster LAN than other boards in the same mid-range class/$.

 

[Woomack]

I don't disagree.

On this board, it's the connectivity that's different... IIRC, it comes with TB/USB4 and may have faster LAN than other boards in the same mid-range class/$.

Yes, I was somehow surprised it has a 10GbE LAN. USB4 is supposed to be a standard in these new series as it's almost the only improvement in the new chipsets. It's still weird how the market switched back to 2.5GbE NICs, and I saw that some new models will have the "new and fastest" 5GbE when a couple of years ago, many motherboards had 10GbE.

This is also why I said that Creator motherboards typically have nothing special. The X870E ProArt is actually a pretty good-looking and well-equipped model. I still don't get what advantage it gives to "creators", but the motherboard itself is more convincing than most other ASUS mobos.

 

[EarthDog]

USB4 is supposed to be a standard in these new series

Right. I was talking about the previous generations/series/in general like you were.

What it offers now over others........10GbE, lol. There's very little to set them apart considering the 'new' USB4 standard on these boards, indeed.

"new and fastest" 5GbE when a couple of years ago, many motherboards had 10GbE.

5GbE is the red-headed stepchild of LAN speeds, lol. 10 GbE a couple of years ago isn't much different than today, where only a few high-end boards use a 10 GbE. Very few users need more than 2.5 GbE... 5 GbE is a good middle ground between expensive and useless (1% who require 10 GbE) and fast enough for future upgrades, lol.

 

[Railgun]

Yes, but that's the point. You have to dig deeper to find it, like it was added a bit later and isn't on the "first batch list". Some days ago, only Strix and Crosshair were on the list, and to check other models, you had to go through the website link under the banner or the search option. It is just what I see, and it doesn't have to be correct, as ASUS is known to have a mess on its website.

Btw. I don't get all the Creator mobo series, as in general, they're not any different from gaming series, aside from the name and heatsink design. I'm not talking only about ASUS but in general. Typically, they're no better than mid-shelf options, but marketing pushes them as something for professionals.

But my post was the point...there was no digging. Motherboards, Proart/AMD and there it was. No searching required. If it's not "featured" on their site, doesn't mean it's hidden.

 

[EarthDog]

But my post was the point...there was no digging. Motherboards, Proart/AMD and there it was. No searching required.

It is past 'some days ago'.... they may have added it to the page between when he saw it and had to navigate to it, versus you, days later, it was there.

EDIT: I get it now...

...For giggles, I checked, and unless you select Pro Art in their search, it does not come up using "AMD" and X870" for me. So, there is still some digging (check off pro art, lol) as it doesn't come up at a higher level of only AMD and X870.

 

[Railgun]

It is past 'some days ago'.... they may have added it to the page between when he saw it and had to navigate to it, versus you, days later, it was there.

EDIT: I get it now...

...For giggles, I checked, and unless you select Pro Art in their search, it does not come up using "AMD" and X870" for me. So, there is still some digging (check off pro art, lol) as it doesn't come up at a higher level of only AMD and X870.

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That's odd as it's not for me. Just selecting AMD is good...

It loosely makes sense as their web team seems to suck. As you selected the chipset, it seems to be explicit in that it's not including that particular E variant yet. It's a web coding problem.

 

[wade7575]

Yes, I was somehow surprised it has a 10GbE LAN. USB4 is supposed to be a standard in these new series as it's almost the only improvement in the new chipsets. It's still weird how the market switched back to 2.5GbE NICs, and I saw that some new models will have the "new and fastest" 5GbE when a couple of years ago, many motherboards had 10GbE.

This is also why I said that Creator motherboards typically have nothing special. The X870E ProArt is actually a pretty good-looking and well-equipped model. I still don't get what advantage it gives to "creators", but the motherboard itself is more convincing than most other ASUS mobos.

I'm with you on the don't get the advantage it offers to creators because most times your just paying for a fancier name or some crap like that,I only care about the fact that this ProArt has more PCI-e slot's because I still like to use a front panel plug my external storage into when I need to.

I don't like having to rely on the ones built into a tower because if they mess then you have to get a new tower if you get a tower that doesn't have expansion bay's,I also don't trust USB-C fully either because I seen them mess up from time to time and I like being able to have the option and toss the front panel if needed.

I have a really good front panel now that plugs into a PCI-e slot and I have also needed to run a video card plus other specialty cards from time to time as well,if that wasn't the case I'd buy a lower tier mobo but I also want it to be an X870E and not an X870,I like having more power phase's.

 

[Woomack]

The lack of PCIe slots and other things make most new ATX motherboards as usable for most users as ITX. I know that in most cases, one graphics card is in use and 1-2 M.2 SSDs. Barely anyone uses SATA storage on new computers, and barely anyone needs more than one PCIe slot. Still, some users want to install more for various purposes, and it will be hard to find anything that is not overpriced and has a good PCIe lane distribution. Most X870/X870E and probably also new Intel series (ideas are always the same for both sides), have 1-2 PCIe slots only, but more M.2 sockets. It's generally more limiting than the AMD 600 series or Intel 600/700.
I wonder what will bring lower chipsets. The B650E can directly replace the X670/X670E; some B650E motherboards are even better.

 

[Railgun]

It's an unfortunate direction Intel and AMD are taking with their platforms; somewhat artificially limiting PCIe lanes. It's one of the primary reasons I went with TR again. And realistically speaking, I'd be willing to bet that a large majority don't actually OC these days, so may even be better suited to a lower end EPYC if they really want slot flexibility.

 

[Woomack]

It's an unfortunate direction Intel and AMD are taking with their platforms; somewhat artificially limiting PCIe lanes. It's one of the primary reasons I went with TR again. And realistically speaking, I'd be willing to bet that a large majority don't actually OC these days, so may even be better suited to a lower end EPYC if they really want slot flexibility.

Still, new TR or Epyc prices are ridiculous. I don't think many would pay $1k for a "basic version" of the CPU and the same for a motherboard, not to mention other components. I doubt we will see prices again like in the first two TR generations.
Most users who dislike where it's going wish for +1/2 PCIe slots to add something that is missing, or the integrated one feels not good enough. I think that in the current situation, there should be "bifurcation-friendly" PC cases. Most new motherboards in all standards support PCIe bifurcation, but it's hard to find any PC case in which 2-3 cards with risers can be installed. There are no proper risers, too.

I don't get why many things are still not improved. PCs are meant to be upgradeable, so the full integration of components is against the PC idea. I'm not sure why the market keeps regular DIMMs and does not use SODIMMs when the speed and capacity can be the same (at least for desktops). I don't know why M.2 sockets and mounting mechanisms still look like they are in pre-release versions. I have no idea why the market waits so long with PSU changes when all modern devices use only 12V rails. The list is longer.

 

[Railgun]

A 16-core 7303p is less than $500. If you want spankin new, then ok, yeah, it’s a tick over $1k. YMMV.

Agreed with the backward direction for cases and the like. It’s an over simplification of the whole ecosystem. But you have a balance between performance and practicality. While it may be unnoticeable for the masses, you don’t want to load up PCIe slots or NVMe ports with retimers or redrivers, which you have already on the former. So distance is an issue, thus space is also an issue. Are m.2 ports annoying? Generally, and especially when they sit under other components making accessibility a PITA. MCIO is better, but the manufacturers are dumb and pigeonhole consumers into singular options for storage.

 

[Woomack]

A 16-core 7303p is less than $500. If you want spankin new, then ok, yeah, it’s a tick over $1k. YMMV.

You can find 32-48 cores from the second gen Epyc for SP3 at about ~$400-500, but the cheapest new motherboard will still cost $600-700. I recently bought 2x Epyc 7282, ~$70 each, but the motherboard cost me ~$800 (inc. our magical 23% VAT). Everything new, like a low 16-core CPU and new motherboard, cost $1k each. If the CPU performance isn't the issue, then it's better to find something 1-2 generations back that is still full PCIe 4.0 and supports most of the same devices as the latest gen.
Servers are not getting old as fast as desktops. Desktops wouldn't get old so fast if not for the constant pushing from the marketing/sales side. People don't really need upgrades, but everyone around tells them they need them, so many spend money way too often.

 

[Railgun]

if not for the constant pushing from the marketing/sales side. People don't really need upgrades, but everyone around tells them they need them, so many spend money way too often.

Gotta feed the “content creators” somehow.

 

[EdyDev]

Supposedly, prices for some Asus motherboards were recently leaked (including the X870E Creator).
I don't know if we know where that guy got the prices from but he seems to be pretty reliable.
I really hope they're gonna release the Creator motherboard sometime around September 30. I have recently bought the X670E Creator for a good deal but I have a 60-day return window and I really wanna get the X870E if the price is not absolutely ridiculous.