ati 9100 128mb or nvidia 5200 128mb

[Super Nintendo]

Hey, asking a question for a friend. I haven't been reading up on the 5200 fx yet but I know they aren't that great. But what would be worth more the 9100 ati or the 5200 fx. Thanks for the info in advance.

 

[glock19owner]

The 5200 FX is just a GF4 MX upgraded to 128MB and DX9 support...the 9100 is the new name for the 8500...

The 9100 would be the better of the two...the 9100 should out perform my GF3 Ti200 and my GF3 Ti200 out performs the 5200...

 

[funnyperson1]

The 5200 Ultra isnt that much worse than the 9100, and I would consider it if the price is lower. However the non ultra 5200 is not worth it compared to the 9100.

 

[Super Nintendo]

thanks guys.

 

[AMDNightmare]

5200Ultra

 

[bdw8]

AMDNightmare, why would you pay for a 5200Ultra, when you can get a 9100 for around 90 bucks and you get as good/better performance?

Definately go with the 9100.

 

[TimWest]

Without a question.......9100

This is a bit off topic.... I just read a review on the FX5600

For the most part it is slower then a 4200.....at times it is half as fast as a 9500pro.

http://tech-report.com/onearticle.x/5103

 

[TUK101]

Having owned a Radeon 8500 I can vouch for it. It is nearly as fast as my TI4200. You will also like the extra visual quality of the Radeon (or at least your friend will).

 

[Anaxagoras1986]

Funnyperson and everyone else here : Id say that the FX5200 is WAY (3x enough?) stronger than the R9100 in some cases. Overall, it is a fair amount faster I believe. But the R9100 is much cheaper.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1797&p=12

 

[funnyperson1]

Yes it does seem to have much superior AA and Aniso performance than the 8500/9100. But on stock settings it isnt much faster than a 9000Pro. And honestly its only really suggested if you want to spruce up old QIII based games like JKII. If you look at the this though you will see that it is unplayable with AA and Aniso in new games:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1797&p=7.

But if you play mostly older games, then the 5200Ultra may be a good choice.

 

[Anaxagoras1986]

Such is the price of a 80 dollar card I guess. Worthy to note, it is still running at over 2 times faster than the R250 things though.

 

[Beast Of Blight]

This is going to turn into another nVidia Vs. ATI war ;

 

[funnyperson1]

Such is the price of a 80 dollar card I guess. Worthy to note, it is still running at over 2 times faster than the R250 things though.

Yes, I was just pointing out that 2 times faster isnt impressive when the card is still running 24fps.

Anhow I get the idea he was talking about the 5200 non pro because the cheapest 5200Ultra I find on pricewatch is 165$. The 5200 non ultra is 80$. Unfortunately the 5200 regular gets whipped by the 8500/9100.

Look at some benchies I was able to find with the 5200 non ultra.

http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/VGA/Inno3D_FX5200/pg_3.htm

Even with supposed DX9 capabilities it gets beaten by the Ti4200 in 3dmark2003. It gets completely crushed by the Ti4200 in 2k1. Note that the anandtech review was of the Ultra, with this test system:

ABIT KD7-G mainboard

AMD Athlon TBred XP 2200+

(x2) 256mb DIMM Corsair XMS-3500

Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 30gb ATA133 HDD

Generic 52x CD-ROM

Thermaltake 480w PSU

Windows XP Professional w/service pack 1

they barely got 7900 3dmarks. Even a Ti200 can top that. And those have been selling for 65-70$ for almost a year now.

Some more 5200 benchies:
http://www.penstarsys.com/Reviews/video/leadtek/fx5200/a340tdh_4.htm

Notice how it can't even hold a candle to the 9000Pro. I know 3dmark isnt exactly a game, but 50003dmarks compared to 8000?

http://www.penstarsys.com/Reviews/video/leadtek/fx5200/a340tdh_5.htm

Once again the 5200 gets crushed in all but one benchmark.

Here is where the 5200 could be decent:
http://www.penstarsys.com/Reviews/video/leadtek/fx5200/a340tdh_6.htm

Its AA performance is very good compared to the 9000Pro. Mostly because the 9000 Pro still uses supersampling. So if you want to play QuakeIII and CS with AA and Aniso on, and you plan to not play any newer games, then yes the 5200 might be a decent choice.

 

[Anaxagoras1986]

Ok, you have made your point.

 

[TimWest]

I found a FX5200 Ultra for $84.95

http://www.computergate.com/updates/info.cfm?id=1

It is kind of confusing, the page above states it is a FX52 Ultra, but when you take the link to the product, it doesn't say anything about being an ultra. So you may want to investigate a little if you are interested.

 

[Evnas]

Not to mention the entire FX line's horrible image quality.

 

[Anaxagoras1986]

Thats also due to driver probs Evnas.