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ATI 9700 Pro or an nVidia Card??

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Viper69

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I have an unlocked Barton XP2800+, Asus N7 deluxe rev. 1.04 mobo, 1 Gig of Corsair XMS RAM....

What video card would be good in the nVidia world. I play games like Sim City4, Total War Shogun and Medieval, various FPS's such as the first unreal, then Jedi Knight of course

Let me know your opinion please.
 

Sentential

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It depends. If you are interested in future games without patches/hacks to work properly I would recomend a ATi 9800np. If you want to take a risk and save money go with Nvidia.

If you're goin Nvidia get a 5900F, I wouldnt consider a -5700FX or under unless youre strapped for cash.

If youre goin ATi get a 9800np(non-pro) or a 9600XT, if you dont have the cash
 
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Viper69

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why 9800 over the 9700Pro

what's a 9800np...meaning what's the np mean? non pro??

The 9700 has 8 rendering pipelines just like the 9800series.
 

Evnas

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The 9700 Pro will do very well. Theres not much you can buy from nVidia that will equal it, and it is a damn solid card all around
 

Sentential

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The 9800 usus updated codecs and has a higher clock speed / memory speed. Plus it has better overclocking potential.

Yes 9800np = Ati 9800 non-pro

A 9800np is the best bang for $$$ right now, it terms of longevity and performance.

The close second is the 9600XT or 9600 non-pro.
 

Evnas

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Sentential said:
The 9800 usus updated codecs

Well, it doesnt use updated "codecs". The differences are these:

SMARTSHADER 2.1 - Which gives the 9800 Pro beyond DX9 specs which ATI is calling DX9++ (DX9++ is just a move against nVidia's "DX9+" Beating them at their own game so to speak). An F-Buffer has been introduced in the R350 core which allows long shader programs to be run much faster then previously and also gives unlimited pixel shader support allowing for a true OpenGL 2.0 compliant VPU

SMOOTHVISION 2.1 – Which is the AA/AF component of the 9800 Pro. This newer version has hardware enhancement of the memory controller for improved AA/AF performance at higher resolutions.

HyperZ III+ - Which is their Z-Culling technique. The Z-Cache has been enhanced to better handle stencil buffer data for features like shadow volumes.

And core tweaks to allow for higher stable clock speeds.