yah thanks guys. i know im newbie here and all never really new how to/wanted to oc until i realized i got a 1890 on 3dmark 2k3 and that my non-xp athlon could be easily oced now my only problem is cpu cooling. and thanks for the link. after i posted this i laughed at myself because i realized ive been there over and over again and didnt realize my asking you people and my looking at that page was kind of redundant.
anyways, thanks for the time spent linking me there and for the welcome.