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Sp1k3

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i got my mobo down to 17C and my cpu down to 35C, so i got some pretty good temps. mobo normally is like 35C and CPU is normally 55's. and i dont know why my computer runs so hot. and i never even overclocked it yet! well it maybe because i have no case fans, and i only have cpu fan and psu fan. most of the time i leave my side panel off and put a nice big fan next to it. so i can mantain a decent cpu and mobo temp. the fan that i put on the side panel is the equalivint of a 200 CFM fan. so it is a nice fan to put on my side panel when i am gaming on this crapper.

can someone please tell me why my computer runs so hot? oh yeah those temps are at idle too! So there is definatley a problem.

i think it says somewhere on there that i have a socket 478, but i really have a socket 423.

and no one would help me over in cooling so i posted here, since i know ppl will help me here :)

oh yea here are my pc specs at idle (typing this thread)

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : Compaq
Version : C01BDABB

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Compaq
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Compaq
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : 077Ch

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 3
Maximum Installable Memory : 3GB
Bank 1 - XMM1 : JEDEC ID:2C FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 16LSDT3264AG-133E1 AD912057 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 256MB/64 @ 133Mt/s
Bank 2 - XMM2 : JEDEC ID:2C FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 8LSDT1664AG-133E1 8BCF0945 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 128MB/64 @ 133Mt/s
Bank 3 - XMM3 : Empty

FLASH Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 1
Bank 4 - XU15 : Chip Non-Volatile FLASH 512kB/4

Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82845 Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (A3-step)
Bus(es) : X-Bus AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 100MHz (400MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 100MHz / 1x 133MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 1.00
Number of Ports : 1
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 1/1x
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz data rate)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Bank 1 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Bank 2 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Speed : 1x 133MHz (133MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 4/3x
Width : 64-bit
Refresh Rate : 15.60µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 16MHz
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : No

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : Micron 16LSDT3264AG-133E1 572091AD 256MB 16x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-542 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)
Memory Module 2 : Micron 8LSDT1664AG-133E1 4509CF8B 128MB 8x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-542 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : AD ADM1028 SMB
Version : 0.02
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 39.0°C / 102.2°F td
CPU Temperature : 62.0°C / 143.6°F td



AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 64MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.20
Number of Bridges : 2
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (33MHz)
PCI Bus 2 : PCI (33MHz)
Multiplier : 1/3x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82801BA (ICH2) LPC Interface Controller
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Random Number Generator Enabled : No
Random Number Generator Support : Yes
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : SMSC LPC v1
Version : 6D.00
Number of Enabled Devices : 5

USB Controller 1
Model : Compaq Computer Corp (Now owned by Hewlett-Packard) 82801BA/BAM (ICH2/ICH2-M) USB Universal Host Controller
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Compaq Computer Corp (Now owned by Hewlett-Packard) 82801BA/BAM (ICH2/ICH2-M) USB Universal Host Controller
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : Accton Technology Corp TSB12LV26 OHCI Compliant FireWire Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : Yes
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : Intel 801xx SMBus
Version : 1.02
Slave Device Enabled : Yes
Speed : 16kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
AGP Slot J40 : AGP-4x 32-bit +3.3V Half-Length Used
PCI Slot 1: J20 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME i2c/SMBus Half-Length Used (Intel Corporation 82845 Brookdale Host-AGP Bridge (A3-step))
PCI Slot 2: J21 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME i2c/SMBus Half-Length Used
PCI Slot 3: J22 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME i2c/SMBus Half-Length Available

Port Connector
COM A - COM A : Serial Port 16550A - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM B - COM B : Serial Port 16550A - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
PAR - PAR : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - 25 Pin Dual Inline / DB-25 pin female
USB 1 - USB 1 : USB - USB / USB
USB 2 - USB 2 : USB - USB / USB
KBD - KBD : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
MOUSE - MOUSE : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
CD-AUDIO IN 1 : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
TV & DVD Audio In : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
P20:primary IDE : None - ATA / None
P21:Secondary IDE : None - ATA / None
P10:Floppy : None - Floppy Disk / None
J13 - Line I/O: MIC : MIDI - None / Mini-DIN
J15 - Line I/O: Line In : MIDI - None / Mini-DIN
J13 - HeadPhone & Line Out : MIDI - None / Mini-DIN
P9: NIC : None - None / None
Chassis Fan : None - None / None
P6: Speaker : None - None / None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.


<added> is this a good fan for this heatsink? and are they compadible?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...description=Thermalright,SLK900A&searchdepa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-103-132&depa=1
 
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Balrog

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Congratulations, I think that is the longest single post I've ever seen here at OC Forums! :D As you stated your problem is related to not having any\enough case fans. You simply need to add more fans and\or ducts to bring more cool air into your case and exhausting it. If you look your case over you will most likely find places where you can easily add more fans. Try the lower front and on the back just below your PSU, there should be mounting points where you can attach 80mm fans without too much difficulty.

Regards, Balrog
 

Balrog

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Thats a nice heatsink but I'd recommend Thermaltake's twin fan set, its only $16.00 at NewEgg. It will give you an 80mm axial fan as well as an 80mm radial fan so you'll have a choice as to which fan you use. The other fan can be set up as an extra intake or exhaust fan to help you get your case temps under control. This set also comes with a dual speed controller that mounts in a 3.5 drive bay so you can control the amount of cooling\noise at any given moment.

Regards, Balrog
 
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Sp1k3

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i just seaarched newegg.com and i couldnt find it there could you get me a link, please.

thanks
 
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Sp1k3

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ty,but the cfm is a little low for me, (abou 30 to low) thank you for trying to help though
 

xvi3tsoljahx

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If your really worried try opening your case panel for a while usually it will drop 2-5c. I'm not sure why your pc is running hot its very cold in california right now. If you leave you case panel be sure by the time you replace your heatsink vaccumm in there because lots of dust will build up in the case.
 

arklab

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One more simple idea...
First rule of cooling: Open the case and vacume everything clean.
Maybe youv'e already done this, but it's amazing how may haven't.

I've opened computers less than 2 years old in a "clean" office environment and found a 1/2" carpet of dust covering everything.
And it dosen't cost a nickle!
 
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Sp1k3

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ok ill try that, i noticed a bunch of dust on my cpu fan and i wonder if that was anything to do with my bad temps? and if so would i be able to safley vacuum the dust from it?
 

CCW

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Airflow is important, ideally you want the sme amount of air in and out. Cool air should neter the case form the bottom front of the case and hot air be exhausted from the top back of the case. If you only have space for one case fan you should make sure that it is taking air out of the case as this will create negative pressure inisde the case and due to this air will always come in through gaps to fill up this negative pressure so you will always have cool air coming back into the case. If you only had one fan pulling air in, the ambient case temperatures to rise as there is no pressure to pull the air out of the case.

Arctic Silver 5 is a good thermal Interface Material (TIM) and will lower temperatures by 4-5*C over Arctic Silver 3. the more you use the system and the more ubrn-in AS5 recieves, the lower your temps will be. You can read my review of Arctic Silver 5 here.

Craig
 
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Sp1k3

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thanks guys, well i might have to put some artic on but, im not sure if i can take the fan off without damging the cpu or the heatsink. got any tips?
 

CCW

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Processor heatsinks and fans come with practice. Once you've got it, you can do it everytime without damaging the heatsink or the processors Core. Just use a flat headded screwdriver, push down on the clip, hold the heatsink at all times with your other hand, level the clip out from the plastic clip on the socket but hold the heatsink level so you dont chip your processor core. then lift it up hooking it back from the other clip on the Socket.

Craig
 
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Sp1k3

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thanks but i need to buy some cheapo thermal. normal rates are like less then 5 bucks?
 
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well i dont know when i will get around to getting the thermal, but i am vacuum my cpu (is that safe, and is it a good place to start?) and the rest of my case out. there seems to be quite a bit of dust in the cpu fan, should i take the fan off the heatsink and vacuum that out?
 

CCW

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You shouldnt use a vacuum cleaner, a can of compressed air is cheap and designed for the job. Make sure you dont have the computer turned on when you spray out the system as condensation can form when the cold compressed air meets your warm computer.

Craig
 
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Sp1k3

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ok, lol who would leave computer on :). and could i get that compressed air can at a general hardware store?