Best DDR5 for PRIME-Z790M Plus?

[ratbuddy]

The QVL is here: https://www.asus.com/us/motherboard...lpdesk_qvl_memory?model2Name=PRIME-Z790M-PLUS and I'd like at least 64 GB, although I guess if it's really fast I could settle for 48.. I'm only upgrading my mobo to get DDR5 and perk up my 12700KF a bit, so I'd like to put the best possible sticks on there. Do I really have to stick to this list? It only goes up to 6000, but I'm pretty sure kits are being sold at much higher speeds these days. For example, I see some Trident Z Royal listed at DDR5 8400 (PC5 67200) Timing 40-52-52-134, but the top sticks on the QVL show older products more like DDR5 6000 with 40-40-40-76 neighborhood timings.

edit: Also looking at mini ITX options now, mATX seems to be dying off..

 

[Woomack]

12700KF doesn't support high RAM speeds. You can't count it will pass 7000 (it can be anything between 6600-7600, but closer to 6800-7000 max).
Look for Kingston Renegade or G.Skill Trident Z5 2x32GB 6400 CL32. This is the same stuff as in 2x32GB 6800 kits, but is cheaper and easier to find. I can already share that I will probably review the new G.Skill Royal kit 2x32GB 6400 CL32, but it hasn't been shipped yet (probably later this week). At least for that I asked, and it was confirmed. However, I don't expect it to be better in OC than other G.Skill or Kingston kits as all use the same Hynix A-die IC.

Regarding motherboards, I don't know if it's a good idea to buy something Z790 now. I mean, in two weeks, there will be new AMD, and around October, there will be new Intel CPUs and motherboards. If you really have to buy it now and want ITX, then ASUS Strix Z790-I or B760-I Gaming are good options. B760-I uses a cheaper chipset but still supports higher RAM and can find it for half the Z790 price.
If you decide on a new AMD then there won't be new motherboards until about September/October. In this case I can recommend you Strix B650E-I Gaming. Performance and overclocking are the same as on top X670E motherboards, but the price is much lower. If I'm right then new AMD chipsets won't change much. In the specs I see USB4 as a standard and nothing else from really new things.

 

[ratbuddy]

Thanks, I didn't realize there was a refresh so close. I'll see what October has to offer.

 

[Flamethrower1972]

12700KF doesn't support high RAM speeds. You can't count it will pass 7000 (it can be anything between 6600-7600, but closer to 6800-7000 max).
Look for Kingston Renegade or G.Skill Trident Z5 2x32GB 6400 CL32. This is the same stuff as in 2x32GB 6800 kits, but is cheaper and easier to find. I can already share that I will probably review the new G.Skill Royal kit 2x32GB 6400 CL32, but it hasn't been shipped yet (probably later this week). At least for that I asked, and it was confirmed. However, I don't expect it to be better in OC than other G.Skill or Kingston kits as all use the same Hynix A-die IC.

Regarding motherboards, I don't know if it's a good idea to buy something Z790 now. I mean, in two weeks, there will be new AMD, and around October, there will be new Intel CPUs and motherboards. If you really have to buy it now and want ITX, then ASUS Strix Z790-I or B760-I Gaming are good options. B760-I uses a cheaper chipset but still supports higher RAM and can find it for half the Z790 price.
If you decide on a new AMD then there won't be new motherboards until about September/October. In this case I can recommend you Strix B650E-I Gaming. Performance and overclocking are the same as on top X670E motherboards, but the price is much lower. If I'm right then new AMD chipsets won't change much. In the specs I see USB4 as a standard and nothing else from really new things.

Go for the Gskill I have used their ram for a long time DD2 to DDR4 and soon DDR5 and as long as I have had then no problems.

 

[Evilsizer]

bit late, but i am glad intel is dropping the E cores. people gave me a hard time when i went with a 11th gen. When 12th gen was right around the corner. reading about some of the issues with the intel cpus now, i am questioning the 15th gen. If i were in your shoes, i would go with one of AMDs new chips.

 

[EarthDog]

but i am glad intel is dropping the E cores.

15th-gen is still rumored to have them across most of the line, still AFAIK. I vaguely recall something about no Hyperthreading though...?

i am questioning the 15th gen.

I understand your concern, but I won't be worrying about that. IMO, they won't make that mistake twice.

 

[Evilsizer]

found a the article from earlier this year, that said no more E cores. I do see the latest ones showing the cores counts now with E cores. I guess i was really hoping they would get rid of the E cores. Looking over the layout here

Intel's Arrow Lake chips could be using a brand new core layout for the first time in years

The change could be about boosting multithreading performance. Great news for content creators but not necessarily for gaming, unfortunately.

www.pcgamer.com

Wonder how much more of a increase it is going to be. Wish some reviewers would do more clock per clock, ie locked cpu speed testing.

 

[Evilsizer]

i knew i remember them actually removing e cores!

 

[dfonda]

I understand your concern, but I won't be worrying about that. IMO, they won't make that mistake twice.

Didn't they already do that with both 13th and 14th ? I thought they were shooting for a 3 peat.

 

[EarthDog]

Didn't they already do that with both 13th and 14th ? I thought they were shooting for a 3 peat.

Haha, right?!

They are both Raptor Lake chips, so, I count it as one. They won't make that mistake again on Meteor Lake.