best GF4 vid card under $200

cozmo_d · Jan 5, 2003

Hands down

http://www.leadtek.com/graphics/a250td-ti4400/a250td-ti4400.htm

This shows the 4600 version the 4400 is identical only ram timings are differant this card is sweet

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20020304/geforce4-06.html

8x agp only about 1% improvment not worth the hype give me
5-10% then sell it too me

DManeKid · Jan 5, 2003

Jawsome said:
Why do you gotta have 128 mb?

128mb allows you to cache compressed images before games a lot better, and it also is just generally better for bigger ones, so it doesnt have to use your memory

cozmo_d · Jan 5, 2003

You know ud think that 128 ddr was faster but its not

64meg DDR cards are faster in FPS

Strange must be the arcatexture of the card or slower ram

cozmo_d · Jan 5, 2003

bknight said:
i well let you know how it is but the box look cool lol my mobo dont have 8x but the card duss well see as soon as i can

No point in having 8xagp if you mobo dosent support it

Unless your upgrading mobo soon even still it would only be about 1% improvment wich is nothing

I wish everyone would not bite on that 8x bullcaka bring out 16x then sell it too us 8x is nothing even compared too 2x its still hardley an improvment maybe 2% over 2x agp big woop

bknight · Jan 5, 2003

at the time i need a new card all that was there to get at newegg was 8x sume day i well get a new mobo but at this time the card i got fine for me i know it duss not overclock better then most but i got it set at ti440s hay it better then what i had

batboy · Jan 5, 2003

The 8X cards must have a mobo that has a 8X AGP slot (otherwise it just runs at 4X anyway). Right now, there isn't really a big increase in performance, that's correct, but within the next few months there will be once the applications and games start utilizing the full capabilities.

As for the 64 vs. 128 meg memory debate, several of the 64 vid cards are slightly faster in the lower resolutions, but the 128 vid cards really shine in the upper resolutions. In the next few months, games will continue to be more demanding on the card resources.

Bottom line, if you upgrade vid cards frequently, then a 64 meg AGP 4X card will be a great choice because it's cheaper. If you're like me and want to maximize the lifespan of your vid card purchase, then 128 meg AGP 8X makes more sense, so that it don't become as obsolete as quick.

Having said all that, I think my personal choice will now be a Ti4600. Don't think I'll be happy with anything less. Just need to find a bargain I can live with is all. Income tax refund time is fast approaching. I might just hold off until then to see if prices will drop a bit. Who knows???

Falcon-K · Jan 5, 2003

i have a Gainward Ti 4200 3.6 ns 64 DDR and i have never had a problem and oc'd it to 291/576 and i never tried to go higher

bknight · Jan 6, 2003

lets say aney 4600 card what would the stock core and mem would be set at

batboy · Jan 6, 2003

GeForce Ti4600 reference vid cards have a default core of 300 MHz and memory of 650 MHz

Lithan · Jan 6, 2003

Im getting the ti4200 turbo probably tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think.

Anaxagoras1986 · Jan 6, 2003

batboy said:
GeForce Ti4600 reference vid cards have a default core of 300 MHz and memory of 650 MHz

Whats the normal cards core/mem?

mbentley · Jan 6, 2003

Anaxagoras1986 said:
Whats the normal cards core/mem?

the normal core/memory speeds are 300/650, just like batboy said.

if you want to know some stock clock speeds for certain brands of cards, check out the geforce survey i have been recording.

excel version

html version

bknight · Jan 6, 2003

mbentley not bad maybe i got a bad card just one abit : { sorry 3

T'wolves · Jan 6, 2003

I just orderd the Albatron Ti4680P from newegg. It's 210 bucks though. It is a 4200 gpu but 8 layer pcb and 3.3 ns ram like the 4600, plus it has vivo so i can play war games(Il-2 Combat Missions), tape record them, put them back on the computer and edit them. Now I can make my own documentaries, lol.

There is an article here - http://www.pcstats.com/

batboy · Jan 6, 2003

Sounds very interesting, T'wolves. Let us know how it does what it'll overclock up to.

NO LIFE · Jan 7, 2003

See that card I have in my sig? I got it for $180. I think for the money the Ti4400s are the best cards. They have 8-layer PCB, fast BGA memory, and overclock awsome. As you can see I got my to o/c very nicely. The only thing that was dissapointing was the memory. But I think with a few more volts and some ramsinks it will go much higher. As for cheap MSI hsf's.....the one I got on it allows me to got to 320 core and higher artifact free. I dont have any reason to change it out.

As for the 9500 beating the ti4600. Thats not true. The Ti4600 has 128bit memory interface just like the 9500, while the thing that makes the 9700 so great is it uses 256bit. Look at some specs and u will notice that the 4600 has a higher memory bandwith than the 9500. In benchmarks the 4600 beats the 9500 in every test without AA on. However, when AA is turned on the 9500 core with a certain filtering technique really shows what it is good for. If you want to play games with AA get a 9500, if you dont care about AA the 4600 is for you. Or just get the FX which will blow everything on this planet away AA or not.......

I would say wait though until the FX does hit the shelves. You will the G4 line drop in price.

-JP

batboy · Jan 7, 2003

Wise advice about waiting until the FX arrives. Prices on the other GF models will definitely drop then. I'm sort of getting impatient though. They keep pushing the release date bate. Last I heard was "sometime" in February. But I guess that's "only" 1 to 1-1/2 months away. Maybe I should of bought a MSI Ti4400 when newegg.com had them for $185, but now they're out of stock. Perhaps I should wait... I might just get that 19" Sony Trinitron monitor that I've been wanting in the mean time.

T'wolves · Jan 7, 2003

IF you can wait, do, but I'm stuck with my Diamond Monster Fusion 3D 16mb, 2x Agp, running the banshee chipset. I'm not waiting another month to save 30 or 40 bucks. I scrapped my Ti4200 into a keychain, it was hopeless.

DManeKid · Jan 7, 2003

T'wolves said:
I just orderd the Albatron Ti4680P from newegg. It's 210 bucks though. It is a 4200 gpu but 8 layer pcb and 3.3 ns ram like the 4600, plus it has vivo so i can play war games(Il-2 Combat Missions), tape record them, put them back on the computer and edit them. Now I can make my own documentaries, lol.

There is an article here - http://www.pcstats.com/

im not sure, but i think i said that a page back

thats great that you are getting it, let me know how well it oc's and your 3dmark and if its as good as the review says ill be happy to get it

Anaxagoras1986 · Jan 7, 2003

NO LIFE said:
As for the 9500 beating the ti4600. Thats not true. The Ti4600 has 128bit memory interface just like the 9500, while the thing that makes the 9700 so great is it uses 256bit. Look at some specs and u will notice that the 4600 has a higher memory bandwith than the 9500. In benchmarks the 4600 beats the 9500 in every test without AA on. However, when AA is turned on the 9500 core with a certain filtering technique really shows what it is good for. If you want to play games with AA get a 9500, if you dont care about AA the 4600 is for you.
-JP

I would take the regular 9500 because you can change it to 9700 with the change of a resister!

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