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GTac02

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which one will hit the highest? should i get a 2.4 or 2.6 (same price) what difference will 2.8 and 3.0 make? is it worth it?
 

flapperhead

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it depends on whether u want a hi fsb or the fastest cpu overclock,and how much cash u are willing to spend. the 2.4c mo runs to about 3.5-3.6 which will give u a hi-fsb and memory thruput. the faster cpu's, 3.2-3.0 will probably overclock higher (3.6-3.8).but your fsb and memory thruput will not be as great, and they are considerably more expensive.
 

mn4az

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Way rookie question... for gaming do you want the want the hi-fsb and memory throughput?

If the answer is yes then I would assume for intense processor apps (video/audio encoding) that you'd want the faster CPU.
 
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GTac02

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This is a real hard topic i guess. Ill spend as much as i need to, Im just starting to build a new pc, and i want to get the chip that will give me the best performance. I guess the 2 choices are:

2.4 m0 with mushkin lvl 2 pc3500 5:4 at ~300fsb ~3.6ghz
or
2.8 m0 with mushkin lvl 2 pc3500 1:1 at ~250fsb ~3.5ghz

Using sp-94 heatsink with variable delta 119cfm, and case with 7 fans.
 

gruvin2

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GTac02 said:
This is a real hard topic i guess. Ill spend as much as i need to, Im just starting to build a new pc, and i want to get the chip that will give me the best performance. I guess the 2 choices are:

2.4 m0 with mushkin lvl 2 pc3500 5:4 at ~300fsb ~3.6ghz
or
2.8 m0 with mushkin lvl 2 pc3500 1:1 at ~250fsb ~3.5ghz

Using sp-94 heatsink with variable delta 119cfm, and case with 7 fans.

I'm gonna guess that getting to 250FSB 1:1 is not going to be easy with pc3500. As well as 300FSB stable even with a m0 cpu. Don't mean to rain on your parade, just that there are few and far between that can do that stable. As for deciding between the 2.4/2.6 since price is the same i say go for the 2.6.
 
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GTac02

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man... I just want the best mix...

What will give me best performance, ive waitied 1.5 years to build a cool overclockable pc, this chrismas it could happen. Now ive read ALOT and know alot about this stuff, I even got to build my cuzin's pc with stuff like asus p4c800 2.4c and adata memory.

I would like to make me a better system. I know what case and psu im getting, and i just need your opinions.

I could get:

2.4c to get highest fsb but at 3:2 with mushkin
2.8c to get 5:4 with mushkin
3.0c to get 1:1 with mushkin

And SO MANY more possibilities ive studied. I already have a fx5900 ultra btw, between other things, ( i have a dell...).

What will give me better performance, im also using a sp-94 for cooling with a tornado I guess. Best performance as in stable, and highest scores in benchies i guess...

Its late at night, sorry if some of this doesnt like make sense, lol.

EDIT: im also going to vmod my board to squeeeze the mushkin.

ALSO, do you think i should get a 2.8c m0 (somehow DONT worry about money) so that i could maybe reach really the highest on 1:1. Ive heard the lowest one of these do is like 3.6ghz, some do 4ghz so imagine 5:4 280fsb*14~4ghz, it aint happening on air, but 5:4 264fsb*14~3.7ghz.

Or theres the 2.4c way, i dont like this one, and i dont wanna do it, unless it does give better results, i could get a m0.
 
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PhobMX

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well i suggest you to get better ram from the very start, pc3500 at least... so that if you run at 5:4 with a p4c 2.6 you can shoot to a somewhat realistic 3510mhz speed.

The only way you could get to a high speed with 1:1 would be to buy pc3700 ram and a p4 3.0c to shoot up to 3495MHz.

as a bottom line these are TOP results, even if you use the sp and a tornado its still difficult to reach these speeds i mention. and remember the tornado is a noisy mofo. So i suggest you to go 2.6 and pc3500 route.

Its just me but i wouldnt give fsb for nothing, i myself would get a 2.4c m0 and pc3700. Ive proven myself, maybe its just placebo, but more fsb feels smoother in games.
 

batboy

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I don't think GT will be happy with a 2.6C and sounds like he's not thrilled about a 2.4C even if it's a M0 stepping... so, that leaves the 2.8C M0 (SL6Z5). Hitting 250 FSB should be a good gamble. With good cooling, I think 3.6 gig might be even within reach. It could go lower or higher even.

The RAM is going to be a bit tougher. The two main choices are 5:4 ratio with tight timings or more expensive RAM that will do 1:1 ratio and looser timings. I doubt that Mushkin PC3500 (even as good as it is) will do 250 FSB using the 1:1 ratio.
 

pkrew

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Well, I just ordered some, so I quess we'll see. Of course you can't really tell from just one persons experience.