Calling All A64 Mobile Users

[Captain Turd]

What motherboard are you using?

Of the top two choices for desktop A64's the K8N Neo Platinum has issues running mobiles at stock speed(due to some voltage issues) and no one knows if the Epox 8KDA3+ supports mobiles.

 

[Captain Turd]

No one?

 

[Gautam]

Well, I have a Gigabyte K8N pro, but I don't guess it counts since it's so old now.

 

[oc_byagi]

epox doesn't support mobiles at the moment. maybe later bios updates will but don't expect it to. honestly, why go mobiles??? Please explain. there are retail newcastle cores out and it gurantees you CG steppings if you're looking for it. extra cache? it won't help against higher multiplier while overclocked, meaning more overclock if you go newcastle.

 

[ap673]

I always thought clawhammers were the best overclocking cores.

 

[wuzzapiman]

No, they just scale better. The CG revision newcastles overclock further. CG revision clawhammers are the cream of the crop, or so it seems.

 

[Gautam]

Exactly. And that's why you want one.

 

[Captain Turd]

I can't find a desktop 2800+ CG Newcastle(stepping suffix: AX) anywhere. All I'm finding at newegg and other places are Clawhammers with half of the L2 disabled.

 

[CandymanCan]

wow we have people here who are still blind by mhz. Mear MHZ wont help over programs that benifite using cache.

Like the guy said above me, most and almost all retailers who sell the A64's are calling these Clawhammers with disabled cache newcastle core's.

 

[oc_byagi]

No, they just scale better. The CG revision newcastles overclock further. CG revision clawhammers are the cream of the crop, or so it seems.

I don't quite agree, A64s are natrually very different from XP generations. Like couple of the posts from last week, extra cache available on clawhammer only does about 3% performance increase, even less. Increase in multiplier will give you the speed (in case of 3200+ Newcastle, it can run at 3400+ clawhammer speed). If you've known how A64s are clocked even less than XP's at same speed, it should give you a clue as to how much performance boost you may get from extra clockspeed. Most A64s don't even max out the clockspeed of the processor due to the multiplier limitation, and by trying to get much out of the cpu, you're actaully taking the max out of your parts.

Think how AMD rates the 64's:
extra 512KB cache Clawhammer @ 2.0ghz = 512kb cached Newcastle @ 2.2ghz; Difference=200mhz
Therefore, when you overclock up to same HTT, let's say 250, you'll have "EXTRA 50MHZ EXTRA CLOCKSPEED" (250x10=2500; 250x11=2750, difference=250mhz), when everything else are even out.

 

[Gautam]

Most A64s don't even max out the clockspeed of the processor due to the multiplier limitation, and by trying to get much out of the cpu, you're actaully taking the max out of your parts.

This never happens.

And the 3% is quite a conservative figure; it's more around 5%-15%.