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Caffiend

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Currently jumped ship from the Intel/NVIDIA ship to an all AMD setup. I have no issues getting the rig running on single channel RAM. (2x G-Skil Flare X5 16gb DDR5-6000. Factory clock at 32-38-38-96)
The issue I'm having is trying to use both channels for a total for 4x the Flare X5's mentioned above. the RAM came in a pack of 2 sticks each, and I've kept the matching lot numbers in the paired MB slots.

My build
AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d

Gigabyte X670 Aorus Elite AX Wifi Rev. 1.3
Bios version F3g

4x 16gb Flare X5 DDR5-6000 (32-38-38-96 1.35v EXPO Ready)

Samsung 990 Pro 2 Tb NVME

AMD Radeon 7900XT Adrenaline

Corsair Airflow 4000D

Corsair RM1000x

Noctua NH-D15

Windows 10 pro
 
I have no issues getting the rig running on single channel RAM. (2x G-Skil Flare X5 16gb DDR5-6000. Factory clock at 32-38-38-96)
1. 2x sticks is dual channel. 4x sticks is still dual channel. ;)

Anyway, what have you done already? I'd flash the bios to the latest version if you haven't already. But running 4 sticks is more stressful on the IMC. You'll probably have to run it slower than ddr5-6000.... maybe 5600. Does it work at redecorating (not enabling expo?) Like when you first boot and it's at 4800??

If you want 32gb at those speeds, your best bet is to get 2x16Gb kit.
 
I'm trying to get to a stable setting using all 4 of the Flare X5s. The Bios for the Rev 1.3 X670 is currently on the FB3g. When I was initially booting up, I had to update the Bios incrementally from FA.

I was able to get it to boot and start windows properly for a while with all 4 RAM installed, but it would start under-volting 90 minutes after start without load, or 5 minutes after shutting off a game like Monster Hunter Rise or Warframe.

It boots fine with no issues as of now only using 2 of the Flare X5s, but there's a consistent 50 percent memory load on start up and it does not dip below that.
 
I'm trying to get to a stable setting using all 4 of the Flare X5s.
Again, do all four sticks work at jedec speeds?


but it would start under-volting 90 minutes after start without load, or 5 minutes after shutting off a game like Monster Hunter Rise or Warframe.
What undervolts? The RAM???? It's normal for a clu to lower clocks and voltage when not in use.


It boots fine with no issues as of now only using 2 of the Flare X5s
Not surprised... 4 sticks at that speed may not be in the cards for that system...


but there's a consistent 50 percent memory load on start up and it does not dip below that.
What is taking up all of that ram (see task manager... post a picture of your processes that show ram use (sort by most up top).
 
Okay, so here's some "fresh" boot snapshots of the Ryzen Master program and Task Manager. It completely slipped my mind to get these as soon as I got home from work. The only programs that were actively running for about the hour and a half that it took me to remember getting these snapshot were a tab of Firefox, BitDefender, and Discord.

As for the excessive RAM utilization, it more than likely have been from Steam I had set as a start up program and immediately downloading game updates; Discord as a start up program and doing discord things; and BitDefender doing its scheduled full scan for malware on boot up.

As for the "undervolt" that I may have incorrectly categorized, I read it from the gauges at the top of the Ryzen Master program. PPT was showing "(negative)- --% of 350w" CPU Telemetry was showing "0.947 V" and SOC telemetry showing "1.045 V". The window itself also froze and I could not scroll down and check the status of the read outs on the Ryzen program labeled as PG 2 in the attachments. This is what I remember from Wednesday night before everything froze and Ryzen Master crashed.

These snapshots were taken using only 2 of the 16GB Flare X5s
 

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Okay, so here's some "fresh" boot snapshots of the Ryzen Master program and Task Manager. It completely slipped my mind to get these as soon as I got home from work. The only programs that actively running for about the hour and a half that it took me to remember getting these snapshot were a tab of Firefox, BitDefender, and Discord.

As for the excessive RAM utilization, it more than likely have been from Steam I had set as a start up program and immediately downloading game updates; Discord as a start up program and doing discord things; and BitDefender doing its scheduled full scan for malware on boot up.

As for the "undervolt" that I may have incorrectly categorized, I read it from the gauges at the top of the Ryzen Master program. PPT was showing "(negative)- --% of 350w" CPU Telemetry was showing "0.947 V" and SOC telemetry showing "1.045 V". The window itself also froze and I could not scroll down and check the status of the read outs on the Ryzen program labeled as PG 2 in the attachments. This is what I remember from Wednesday night before everything froze and Ryzen Master crashed.

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And the current BIOS settings snapshots.
 

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Did Ryzen master crash or the whole thing? To me it looks like you have them running at 6000, but maybe not stable? However if you're also tweaking things in Ryzen master it is difficult to know what is causing your instability. I'm a few generations behind but the situation you're describing with PPT does not seem to be RAM related at least on the surface.

With just expo set in the bios and all four sticks installed, is the system stable?

A lot of overclocking is not set it and forget it, although EXPO is an attempt at this, its important to remember that it's not just the RAM but also the memory controller (which while located on the physical CPU, is not part of the core and is actually on a separate piece of silicone and not to my knowledge a significant component of PPT, or the chip's power draw) that has to operate beyond spec. Double the memory sticks is double the work for the controller. I would check your temperatures as a sudden drop in power is more consistent with a thermal problem in my experience.

This is why any tweaking or overclocking often requires a systematic approach, especially in troubleshooting. You'll want to establish that the system is stable/functional, make one change, and establish again that it is stable before making additional changes. If you change everything all at once, you won't know where things went wrong. Some people use stress tests (I think OCCT is a good one these days and has a pretty functional free version), but others chose not to, because the stress test goes beyond normal use. But if you want to *know* if a setting is stable, then move on, to the next setting, then retest, this is the way to do it.

If you're system is currently unstable, you should go into the BIOS and reset factory defaults. Then establish that it is stable at default settings (either through normal use or a stress test, your preference - either way each step of stability can take hours to days depending on the stress test or use case). Once you are comfortable that it is, you can enable EXPO and try again. If it's not stable, you can try to adjust some timings to achieve a stable setting, or in some generations minor adjustments to certain voltage settings can help (I'm not sure if this is the case for the 7000 series, you'd have to ask someone more up to date). I don't think the x3d chips allow for much in the way of overclocking or tweaking anyway now that I think of it.
 
Did Ryzen master crash or the whole thing?
Ryzen Master crashed first, then the whole computer froze, and finally black screened with no reesponse. all within five minutes.

To me it looks like you have them running at 6000, but maybe not stable?
These snapshots were taken using only 2 of the 16GB Flare X5s

With just expo set in the bios and all four sticks installed, is the system stable?
When I was able to get it to run with all four sticks, EXPO would not stay active. Any time I tried to activate EXPO with the four sticks, the BIOS Screen would have a pop-up on boot up saying the auto settings are unstable. The only options I get are to revert to a stable setting and boot through, revert to a stable setting then reboot. or enter BIOS.

Cirrently the only thing I have tried to tweak anywhere near in-depth has been the VDDQ, VDD, and VPP voltage settings from "Auto" to "1.350 V". I have not gone into the Advanced Memory setting to mess with the individual clock settings as of yet.
 
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