cant change FSB or multi, NF7S v2.0

[Tricky1]

Soft Menu on NF7S v2.0 setting FSB and multi wrong. 1100, 100mhz x11.
Also when I push the power button, the computer doesnt shut down. It just restarts.

Has been running stable for 3 years at - 200mhz, x11, 1.675v. 45c full load.

Anything I change in BIOS and save works, except FSB & multi settings in Soft Menu. This just started out of the blue.

I have unplugged the PSU, pushed the power button, pulled the CMOS bat, set jumper to reset, let set for 10 minutes, put bat back in, reset jumper, powered back up, set to optimized in BIOS ten times now and that doesnt work. Still showing & running at 1100, 100mhz x11.
New CMOS bat, installed new chip drivers, flashed new bios - d27. No dice. Also tested proc in another board and checked out good.

Hope something will fix. Was playing CSS, CZ, 1942, BF2, Oblivion, no problem.

Any ideas?



NF7S v2.0, 2500 Barton, TT Volcano 7+, 2x512 Mushkin dual channel, 2.5,3,3,11, 9800pro 256, Antec Neo 480, 2X WD-120, XP Home.

 

[jiggamanjb]

What if you just uninstalled softmenu and just used the BIOS for overclocking?

This is how you change what the power button does:

 

[Tricky1]

Thanks for reply.
Soft Menu is part of the BIOS. Top left In BIOS. It is where you can set FSB, multi, dividers, voltage, etc. All of my problems are before I even get into Windows. As far as I know NF7S doesn't have a overclocking utility from Windows like UGURU. Only from within BIOS.
Power button problem happens before and after I get to windows. In windows its set for shut down and in bios its set for shut down.
Any other ideas?

 

[jiggamanjb]

Oh, I remember now. I'm using a modded BIOS that doesn't call it that.
Only thing I could think of is that the CMOS jumper is in the wrong place.

Does it restart immeditely?

 

[Tricky1]

CMOS jumper set to bottom 2 pins (1 & 2). top 2 (2 & 3) to clear.
Any time I push the power button, about 4 sec, then turns off and powers back up. It kills the power & then powers back up. Not like reset. Also I dont have (power off) in BIOS set for 4 sec delay. ?????
If I change Date/time, set onboard sound to off, change boot sequence, etc. in BIOS, those settings are saved. If I change FSB or multi. and hit F10, no change and no POST. Then I have to turn power off at PSU, switch back on, then goes to post, goes to Windows, but still 1100, 100fsb x11. SUCKS.
Both Windows and BIOS detect as 1100. I put a Semp. 2800 in and same thing. BIOS does seem to save FSB/DRAM ratio. Its like it is detecting CPU wrong.
Ive got a BIOS chip coming from ABIT. You think there is a chance it might fix? When I flash BIOS it takes it.

If board is gone Id like to find another. Any ideas on that?

Thanks for trying to help on this.

 

[jiggamanjb]

My parents had the same problem with their Gigabyte mobo not keeping the fsb and multi. Eventually after a bunch of resets and saves it took it, but still not what it was supposed to be. I don't know what causes it, but a new chip may help. Maybe try to do the pin mod, that may solve it too.

Finding a replacement is hard. The best place to check is the classifieds on the forums. We have a min of 100 posts to see ours, but hardforum you can see right away. There are other forums, but I'm just stating 2 of em I use. You can try ebay, but you know how that goes.

 

[Tricky1]

Thanks. Ill check it out. If the chip dont work I need to go cheap. Save for about a year for DX10. quad core?
I dont think there are any AGP boards that are good to OC with dual channel that can be bought new. Not even 754 is there?

 

[Tricky1]

If my board is done, I can't complain. Served me well.
Ill have to think of a way to give it a BIG send off.
pics

 

[Tricky1]

Pin mod. Same as what Ive seen for 1800 Tbred?

 

[john410312]

Oh, I remember now. I'm using a modded BIOS that doesn't call it that.
Only thing I could think of is that the CMOS jumper is in the wrong place.

Does it restart immeditely?

Abit NF7-S v2 D27 Taipan CPC Off / 2600+ Mobile IQYHA / 150GB Raptor / OCZ 520w Powerstream
246FSB @ 11x OC'ed to ~ 2706 @ 1.93v - load temp @ 50c
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC 3200 OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K / 2.5 - 2 - 2 - 10 @ 2.7v

jig, I've copied your sig above. I've almost the same setup. I flashed the bios with the D27 Taipan as yours, I'm running a mobile barton 2600+ AQYHA0420MPMW, 1 gb pc3200 ddr400.

After I flashed the BIOS with flash menu, and rebooted, the POST shows Taipan on top, but when I enter the bios area I get the same "Softmenu III Setup" and I the only thing I can select is 1800(133). 133x13.5 are "x'd" off and blue so I can't adjust. Also when I open Flash menu from windows, I still show nVidia-nforce-6161BA1BC-27 .

WHat am I doing wrong? or what am I missing?

I can crank up the settings using clockgen.exe and can get stable up to 2038 (Approx 151x13.5) I can't seem to figure out how to change the multiplier.

L12 mod. I've followed the directions and added the two wires to the cpu socket. The dirs say to use "telephone wire". I stripped 2 pieces out of an old phone line and inserted them into the holes. The cpu inserts fine into the socket. Everything boots up fine but I still can't open the clock above 133 Mhz and the Multiplier over 13.5.

Again, what am I doing wrong / missing.

 

[john410312]

jig,

searched around some more and LIKE THE NOOB I AM.... I found another post from you about the L12 mod.

I answered my own questions... what I didn't do was load the OPTIMIZED settings. into the bios before proceeding.

DUH DUH DUH!!!

I'm such a NOOB!

THanks anyway..

jb

 

[mcoleg]

hey Tricky, figured it out yet?

if you want, i can let you borrow a cpu to check if the board is still kicking.

lemme know if you want it.

 

[jiggamanjb]

jig,

searched around some more and LIKE THE NOOB I AM.... I found another post from you about the L12 mod.

I answered my own questions... what I didn't do was load the OPTIMIZED settings. into the bios before proceeding.

DUH DUH DUH!!!

I'm such a NOOB!

THanks anyway..

jb

Everything work out for you then?
I was shoveling snow all day and didn't check the forums yesterday

 

[john410312]

Well it's working sort of.

I've been slowly increasing my fsb and running Prime95 for a couple hours or untill it errors out.

RIght now I'm at FSB 223 x10, 1.8 volts, 43C temp, Ultra pc3200 Mem @ 3-4-4-11. I think I've "hit the wall"

I couldn't run at FSB225 at any voltage.

Once it runs ok at 223x10 @ 1.8 volts, I'm going to up my multiplier.

My chip is an AQYHA, is this about the max I'm going to get out of this and the memory I'm running? Should I be running pc4200 mem?

I'm actually quite happy I've got it to go as far as I have. Will keep you posted on my progress and any other tips you can give me will be appreciated.

jb

 

[jiggamanjb]

Did you try different voltages for the memory and chipset too?

What are the 'base' timings for the mem?

It does sound like you may have hit the wall with you mem. I would like to see the timings a bit tighter though. Maybe 2.5-3-3 if anything.

Anything around 225 fsb is usually pretty good on a NF7. I would be happy with that.

XPs like tight timings, and the NF7 doesn't do high fsb very good, so I'd stick with RAM no higher than 3500 and 3200 is just fine. 2-2-2 is optimal.

Sounds like you know what you are doing, so keep it up!

Did you use the BIOS I modded?
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4596525&postcount=2402

 

[Immortal_Hero]

The reason that your clock settings are not saving is becuase the BIOS detects they are not stable so they set safe settings for an Athlon XP. Have one of these boards and it is a pain. Try booting @ stock clocks and see what happens. I sounds like the board is trying to protect you but is being a PITA.

 

[john410312]

Did you try different voltages for the memory and chipset too?

What are the 'base' timings for the mem?

It does sound like you may have hit the wall with you mem. I would like to see the timings a bit tighter though. Maybe 2.5-3-3 if anything.

Anything around 225 fsb is usually pretty good on a NF7. I would be happy with that.

XPs like tight timings, and the NF7 doesn't do high fsb very good, so I'd stick with RAM no higher than 3500 and 3200 is just fine. 2-2-2 is optimal.

Sounds like you know what you are doing, so keep it up!

Did you use the BIOS I modded?
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4596525&postcount=2402

I started my own post on my project.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=489546

I've tried upping the voltage on the memory and the slightest change makes it error out. I may tighten the voltages up. I loosened them so I could drive the chip up with no mem issues.

WHat does increasing the voltage to the chipset do?

As per CONSOLE in my post, my 2600 probably won't get much more than the 2.53 ghz I'm getting out of it right now.

BTW thanks for the vote of confidence about knowing what I am doing. This is my first experiment in the OC'ing world.

Recently ran 3DMark01 and was getting in the 12000's in the 1024*768 tests.

 

[jiggamanjb]

chipset voltage helps with high fsb

THAT being said... Is it better performance wise to have a higher FSB and lower multiplier to get the frequency needed OR lower FSB and higher multiplier?

higher fsb always, even if you have to take a small hit on the CPU Ghz