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Soulcatcher668

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Before every gen comes out I think, this will be the one. Nope.

Maybe six core twelve thread will become an advantage soon for gaming.

/sigh
 

wingman99

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Sometimes I think of upgrading just for fun then I say to my self my PC is doing just fine after seeing the bechmarks:shrug: Darn.
 

peanutbudder

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I just did a overhaul on my buddies system that had a 2600k and I couldn't see any difference in performance from my 4790k in gaming. The system was from 2012 and I upgraded his GTX 580 to a GTX 970 and also threw in a 256gb 850 pro. The system was just about on par with mine while playing BF4 and GTA5. I honestly miss my 2500k because I was able to 4.9ghz on air which was freaking awesome and now I'm lucky to get 4.6 on air with my 4790k.

The 2600k is still a contender with any new i7 IMO.
 

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Witchdoctor

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I do not think the gaming industry has really worked towards utilizing as many cores as possible other than a few titles.

now with Consuls at an 8 count this could be changing.
 

mackerel

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Interesting. Only last year I went from a 2600k to 6700k as my main system, and changing video cards made far bigger differences than the CPU for gaming. Now, changing the CPU wasn't the sole reason for upgrading, as I got new toys like USB3, M.2 SSDs along with it.

I sold on my 2600k with GTX 960 in it and new owner seems happy. I loaned a sub-1080p monitor with it, but it would be plenty for 1080p also. Even un-overclocked it to stock, just to be safe, but it was fine running at 4 GHz if a bit more pep should be needed later.
 

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I am still on my 3930K and a MSI GD65 board

PC is still a rocket ship

The 2x Titans still run everything I throw at them @ 5760x1080

No need to upgrade here, although have been looking at those 2000 MBS read speeds out there that make you think about it
 
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Soulcatcher668

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I do not think the gaming industry has really worked towards utilizing as many cores as possible other than a few titles.

now with Consuls at an 8 count this could be changing.

This is what I am thinking.

Depends on where you look and who you are asking if it's worth it..http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/23

Gaming really isn't a good reason, however there are plenty of other uses for said cpu. ;)

True, but this is a gaming machine. I don't do any video editing or other demanding tasks.

For the vast majority of people that ask me about what computer to buy I tell them to get a 400 dollar DELL. Computer are so powerful these days that the everyday user can do everything they need on the cheapest of the cheap.

I am just really surprised that the gains are so minimal.

From the anandtech article ED linked....
Skylake gives an average ~25% better performance in CPU based benchmarks, and when running both generations of processors at their stock speeds that increase jumps up to 37%. In specific tests, it is even higher.

Graph comes from the same anandtech article
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Still not earth shattering numbers. This is 5 generations ago.

Would i see a difference? Yes.

Enough to justify the money to get that difference? Not yet. The gains in real world performance are not there yet.
 

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Not enough for you, but for some people, it absolutely does. 25% is a significant increase these days. Yeah, Sandybridge is 4 generations old indeed... blame the lack of competition driving innovation. ;)
 
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mackerel

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Forgot to comment previously, the video did seem to show something happening with drops for SB/IB era relative to Haswell or newer. Does anyone know what sort of instructions are used in gaming code? My reason for asking is that AVX2 and FMA introduced with Haswell can offer quite a speedup, if it is used.

From that Anandtech chart, I will have to look up Dolphin test later. Those specific numbers resemble what I see in prime number finding.
 

wagex

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im still running my 2500k at 4.8, if i can find a 5.0 2600k for a good price i might upgrade in the near future, but for gaming its still plenty for me, that's about 99% of what i use that pc for these days. my itx is still a 2400 lol still plays all the games i play fine, only thing on that i might upgrade is to a mini itx 960/70 when they get super cheap after next gen releases.
 
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I fully agree, there are people that will benefit from the upgrade, I am just not one of them.

I don't see the competition thing getting resolved anytime soon.

Let's see what intel 3rd quarter brings us.
 

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Broadwell-E will be as fast as broadwell, but with more cores if history continues to repeat itself.

Skylake refresh will be just like Devil's Canyon (4790K) was to Haswell for all intents and purposes. There will not be an IPC increases on the refresh I wouldn't imagine.

Where you may see some differences is in playing DX12 games when it starts to utilize more cores. This, in my opinion, is when you will see older chips and quad only (no HT) starting to lag a bit behind chips with higher IPC and more cores.
 

wagex

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Broadwell-E will be as fast as broadwell, but with more cores if history continues to repeat itself.

Skylake refresh will be just like Devil's Canyon (4790K) was to Haswell for all intents and purposes. There will not be an IPC increases on the refresh I wouldn't imagine.

Where you may see some differences is in playing DX12 games when it starts to utilize more cores. This, in my opinion, is when you will see older chips and quad only (no HT) starting to lag a bit behind chips with higher IPC and more cores.

actually dx12 "should" help out weaker processors taking alot of load off of it if its aything like mantle which from the descriptions of both they should be pretty similar in the way the new api works. then again i could be completely wrong, but i dont think i am. but i could be. idk. math and stuff.
 

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This right here is why I've been out of the scene for so long, it's been almost 4 years since SandyBridge and nothing has really changed.