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MrBean

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IC7-G Review from tom's hardware

I am building a new canterwood system, and have decided on the Abit IC7-G. Today I was looking at Tom's Hardware and I read the article on the new canterwood mobos, link here http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030519/index.html He trashed the IC7 because of the ram timings and the benchmarks for it were horrible, I don't know weather to take this seriously or not. It almost seems he was using the old 1.0 bios, or he didn't know how to set it up. Any help on this would be greatly appreaciated, Thanks
 
Its toms hardware....

The guys totally unreliable. Everyone knows Abit is dedicated to support and they already fixed a lot of issues with bios ver. 1.1 ,so I would take it with a grain of salt.
I am not saying the board is the best in the world but sheesh making an assumption from the first bios is lile counting your chickens before they hatch......

Just my 0.2
 
Yeah I dont really rely on tom's hardware either. One thing I have to clarify if you look at the article, he claims he is using the new bios and is having these problems.
 
From the article:
"In a nutshell: overclockers will definitely be disappointed by this board, as the performance is clearly below expectations."

Oh golly, I must get this IC7 running a 2.6c@3445(stock voltage) out of my system immediately. It's performance is clearly below expectations!
 
hehehe

Oh golly, I must get this IC7 running a 2.6c@3445(stock voltage) out of my system immediately. It's performance is clearly below expectations!

heheheheh!! I would recommend removing that cpu. Once removed douce it, and your mobo with gasoline, and ignite them both. As the flames burn down begin pulverizing the mangled remains with a sledge hammer... YOU MUST MAKE TOM PROUD MY SON!!!!!

toms hardware and anandtech seem to get off on trashing top-quality products.

the ic7 is a damn good mobo, second only to the p4p800(865pe) in my book.

If you did not already order the ic7, get the p4p800. It is the best mobo out there!!
 
The abit board is a good board, but do check out the links above. Especially the second one HaTE posted. If you click on the button to the right, half way down the page, you will see after passing numerious pages the detailed tests run on many boards.

The board you decide to run is mostly up to you and your personal preference. Make sure you cross refference motherboards. Is S-ATA going to be imporantant to you? It is something to think about when looking at the specs of different boards.

BTW the system below is my current system. All of the nessary parts for my newest system will be here in the next few days.

I'm personaly going with the P4C800 because of the type of LAN device and S-ATA controller.
 
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rmonster said:
From the article:
"In a nutshell: overclockers will definitely be disappointed by this board, as the performance is clearly below expectations."

Oh golly, I must get this IC7 running a 2.6c@3445(stock voltage) out of my system immediately. It's performance is clearly below expectations!

What's your ram speed at that FSB -- you certainly haven't got a 1:1 divider? Tom's Hardware diid not argue that the FSB didn't go very high on the IC7, he argued that the board couldn't handle agressive memory timings.
 
As for the P4P800, it seems to me like it's performance should be questioned when it outperforms 875P boards. Maybe Asus is pulling an MSI and is auto OC'ing it when the CPU is at load.

I'll just wait, watch, and see.
 
ok...

no you can see what fsb the board is at... it is not oc'd.

and it would take a much higher oc then any mobo maker would dare to do.

If i could get a board well enough oc'd to increase it's preformance that much, and retain the full proc and mobo warranty... well i wouldn't ask any questions there.
 
Not talking about a slightly higher FSB than default, which lots of mobo makers do on occasion.
Tom's hardware found this about the MSI 865 board.....................
"The lab engineers made a curious discovery when taking a closer look at the 865 Neo 2 from MSI: the manufacturer had integrated an ingenious logic that increased the FSB clock from 6% to 8% when programs were run, which automatically led to overclocking the processor. The trick: with conventional tools, such as the popular WCPUID, Intel CPU Frequency Display, CPUZ and SiSoft Sandra 2003, the clock increase cannot be detected. Only a special tool was able to reveal the raised clock speed."

http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030522/index.html
 
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interesting thought, although i doubt it. I think MSI probably came up with the idea, and kept it a secret, making it appear to have a nice preformance edge. I would not think that multiple makers would come up with the same idea like that, and use it on the same boards... i could be wrong though, i have absolutely no basis by which to base this argument...hehehe
 
Here's another intersting news item about the Asus Springdale and enabling PAT....

Asus first to enable PAT on Springdale

I also saw news posted by Kyle at the [H] about this and he says..."This press release makes statements that are simply not true. Intel's Performance Acceleration Technology is very much a function of hardware. The resources to enabled PAT on a 865PE chipset would simply be too great if it is possible at all. So get it out of your head that Asus is enabling PAT on their Springdale chipset, as that is not a reality. I will have to categorize this as terribly bad and misleading marketing rather than an outright lie. What is true is that Asus has enabled some incredibly aggressive memory optimizations on their P4P800 865PE mainboard".
Their review of the board will be up next week.

It will be intersting to see how this developes-- Is it PAT, is it memory optimizations, will other makers do it, is it possible with bios updates, or is it hardware, is the Earth really flat, is Pat a woman or a man, etc...
 
rmonster said:
From the article:
"In a nutshell: overclockers will definitely be disappointed by this board, as the performance is clearly below expectations."

Oh golly, I must get this IC7 running a 2.6c@3445(stock voltage) out of my system immediately. It's performance is clearly below expectations!

my results are even worse than yours. :D

CPU_speed_latest.jpg


Tom's Hardware, what a joke. :rolleyes:
 
Re: hehehe

gouda96 said:


heheheheh!! I would recommend removing that cpu. Once removed douce it, and your mobo with gasoline, and ignite them both. As the flames burn down begin pulverizing the mangled remains with a sledge hammer...

Or Clawhammer. (And you thought the gasoline was going to get you flames!)


Actually, I've long owned AMD's, but I'm upgrading to a canterwood or springdale and a P4 soon, so don't flame me too much.
 
Re: Re: hehehe

Caffinehog said:


Or Clawhammer. (And you thought the gasoline was going to get you flames!)


Actually, I've long owned AMD's, but I'm upgrading to a canterwood or springdale and a P4 soon, so don't flame me too much.

I bet your folding under pressure. Woody, the dog, wants you to get Canterwood.
What a man will do for his dog!
 
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