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Cheapo 2x512mb or Amazing 2x256mb?

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ap673

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I just wanna make sure of something before I go ahead and by some 2x256 of OCZ PC3700EB. For the same price I can get 2x512mb of Corsair or Kingston ValueRAM. Is it better for gaming to have 2x256 OCZ overclocked or 2x512 Cheapo at 400mhz FSB?
 
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ap673

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Bump

How good is the chance that those Corsair or Kingston ValueRAM come with good overclocking chips? Maybe I can have 2x512mb and overclockability.:D
 

urbancontra

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personally, I would go with the 2x512, even if it meant sacrificing some overclocking. In the long run, you'd benefit more from the extra memory than you would from gettilng a few mhz out ur ram
 
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ap673

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Well its ganna be a 215-230mhz overclock on the OCZ ram. I'm getting a NF7-S and xp2600-m.
 

Kaswyn

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urbancontra said:
personally, I would go with the 2x512, even if it meant sacrificing some overclocking. In the long run, you'd benefit more from the extra memory than you would from gettilng a few mhz out ur ram


Listen to the man.

1 Gig RAM means less lag in some games that uses the hard drive as swap file. Even 512MB is not enough these days.

On another note, I used to have Corsair Value Select 2.5 CL PC3200. I also had Crucial 3.0 CL PC3200 RAM. And now, I have Corsair XMS 2.0 CL PC3200 w/platnium heat spreaders... and guess what?

They all can't go above 220+ FSB without rebooting randomly, not being able to POST, not starting Windows XP.... you name it. They all seem to stop at the same point. So as long as they are brand name RAM, they're fine. I must have something else limiting my OCing, but of all three types, they didn't seem to show much difference at all. Get that extra money and spend it on more RAM.

1GB RAM > 3 Mhz increase w/512MB RAM
 
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ap673

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1GB RAM > 3 Mhz increase w/512MB RAM

Who said 3 mhz increase? I'm expecting to get atleast a 30mhz overclock with the OCZ PC3700EB. So it will be running at 460FSB instead of 400mhz and probably tighter timings...
 

Shuzzy

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hmmm...
the ocz 3700eb can do 260 fsb with like 2.8 volts, and 250 @ 2.5-3-2-#. thats for intel boards, but they say it's not much diff with amd. you may be very plesently surprised if you get this stuff. and hey, you can always get another 512 down the road.

check out the review of the this stuff over at www.anandtech.com
 
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ap673

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Ya I wish they had 1x512mb of PC3700EB, that way later on I could upgrade to another 512mb.
 

urbancontra

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Well if your dead set on the the pc 3700, then do what shuzzy said and just buy one stick of 512 for now. Look on ebay, try froogle, but try, lol. otherwise, you'd end up buying the 2x256 and u will only be happy for a day until you realize you needed more memory than you thought, and then have to go buy another 2x256 by which time you spent more money.
There's lots of stuff (good mem) going around on ebay right now, you just have to have the patience to look.
I just bought 2x512 of mushkin black level 2 pc3500 for 250.00 :eek: And i have someone lined up to buy those sticks for 518 dollars!
*sings to self*ooonnn eeebbaaaaayyyy!! yeah! :clap:
 

Kaswyn

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ap673 said:
Who said 3 mhz increase? I'm expecting to get atleast a 30mhz overclock with the OCZ PC3700EB. So it will be running at 460FSB instead of 400mhz and probably tighter timings...

Just because you have high potential RAM doesn't mean you'll get high FSB speeds. Your MB/CPU etc are still the limiting factors. If your MB/CPU can't go that high and remain stable, your RAM is as good as cheapos.
 

Sentential

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Still tho. Most DDR RAM wont do over 220. Personally I would rather have a high FSB. More RAM is just a side benefit

Also keep in mind that 512MB naturally dosnt OC well. That and crap RAM could spell doom for you.

Personally Either get some PC4000 or hand pick your ValueRAM.
 

Gautam

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CircuitBreaker8 said:
ram is ram, get more of it

I'd take crap timings and even slow speeds over 512mb of RAM any day. Sure you may scream in the benchies with the EB, but you could be moaning in Far Cry.

What do you care more about, the benchies, or the real-world gameplay is what it boils down to.
 
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I really only care about real-world gameplay...(I thought benchies measured that :rolleyes: ) and I don't do any video encoding or anything. I pretty much wanna buy some ram that will last me til the end of like next year..heh im cheap. Everyone knows dual-channel with AXP is almost useless, and overclocking FSB in dual-channel is harder than single channel. I wanna get memory that will also be used for overclocking my A64 system when I get it early next year. Ok so I came up with 3 scenarios I could do.

1. Buy 2x256 PC3700EB then buy another 256 or 512 stick later down the road that will be in single channel. Problem is I don't know how well that would work with overclocking and running in dual-channel.

2. Try and find some 1x512 PC3700EB. This is the best choice, but I can't find a stick of 512 PC3700EB anywhere. This way I can upgrade another 512 later when I get A64, and overclock better on AXP.

3. Just get 1x512 of another good overclocking ram like Corsair XMS PC3700PT cuz i can't find any 1x512 of PC3700EB.

I'm so confused...
 
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Ya anything that can match the OCZ 3700EB at 200-250mhz would be a good replacement, if I can get it in 1x512MB. Thanks Gautam.

Looks like these stick are good replacements for the OCZ 3700EB, but staying around 400-450fsb.

OCZ 3500EB
Mushkin 3500 Lvl 2
Mushkin 3200 2-2-2
Corsair 3200XL
Corsair 3700PT

P.S. Is there anywhere out there that has PC3700EB in 1x512mb? I've only checked a few sites, the egg, and ebay.
 
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