I am having a problem. I don't know what crapped out.....the ram or the cpu. The comp does not post it just turns on and sits there doing nothing. It is not a video issue as i have tested that. I think it might be the CPU cause i have watercooling and it is possible that i have ruined the core with too much pressure..(altho no visible damage). If it is the ram i don't know why it is cause it is crucial and it has been reliable to me. Is there any obvious way to tell? If it was the ram would the comp even turn on or at least give me an error when i get into the bios? I just want to find out before i go and buy a new chip. I was thinking the xp1700+ cause it is a cheap chip but is still fast.