First off, let me say that I know that MBM can be way off on actual temps and that in socket thermistors aren't nearly as accurate as on die, that said I'm gettin some funny temps from MBM here recently... I just upgraded to a Tbird 1.4 on my trusty KK266 and at first I thought flames were gonna shoot outta my case with some of the temps I was seeing! Now I'm starting to see temps as low as 27C idle cpu (currently 32 while surfin, with case/aux temps of 26,22). I don't know if firing up the old Air Conditioner in the house has been the difference, but this seems strange... I still get temps as high as 50 after some serious gaming, ect... and the temps like to hover around the mid 40's on average. Currently scavaging for funds to put a blow hole in my case cause the CPU is in a bad spot (Glaciator hsf btw, great hsf!), but I though this was interesting and possibly worth sharing...(please don't tell me to take the side off of my case, I've already heard it, besides I can just imagine returning home from class to find my toddler teething on my GeForce 3 TI200)