Cyberpowerpc pre-built rig advice

[grimgrinch]

Hello all! I'm looking for a good rig to run BF4 on High-Ultra settings and get at least 3-4 years of gaming out of the machine. Regretfully I don't have time to build it from scratch this time around. Any feedback input is welcome!

I'm planning on using older monitor; SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1(DC 3000:1)

I actually prefer Intel and Nvidia but with the specials being offered I don't think I can get a good pre-configured rig under $2.5K budget. I don't want to sacrifice on CPU, Vid Card or RAM.

Here's the AMD build from CyberpowerPC;

*BASE_PRICE: [+2160]
CARE1: Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
CARE2: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
CAS: Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0 & Full Side-Panel Window (Black Color)
CD: LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive & DVDRW, 3D Playback Combo Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.00 GHz Eight-Core AM3+ CPU 8MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
Default case fans
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 240MM w/ XSPC Rasa 750 RS240, Dual Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)(All Venom OC Certified)
HDD: 128GB ADATA SP900 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s - 550 MB/s Read & 520 MB/s Write (Single Drive)
HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (1TB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security [+71])
HEADSET1: Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset [+28]
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard [+5]
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory [+64] (Corsair Vengeance [+29])
MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable™ 3, Dual Bios, On/Off USB Charge & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 4 Gen2 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
MOUSE1: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge [+4]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
NOISEREDUCE2: Power Supply Gasket [+5]
NOISEREDUCE3: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]
OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more)
POWERSUPPLY: * 1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+32]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [Pre-Order ETA:10/31/2013] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
WNC: FREE! 802.11N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth 4.0 Expansion Card [+0]
_PRICE: (+2496)

Here was the Intel build that I want that was $1000 out of my budget range ;
Configuration
• *BASE_PRICE: [+1286]
• CARE1: Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
• CARE2: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
• CAS: Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0 & Full Side-Panel Window [+81]
• CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
• COOLANT: High-Performance Coolant powered by Koolance [+19] (Blue Color [+10])
• CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4960X Extreme Edition Six-Core 3.60 GHz 15MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified) [+814]
• CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Blue Color)
• ENGRAVING: Skull Design [+19]
• FAN: CyberPowerPC Xtreme Hydro II Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ XSPC RayStorm CPU Block,Dual D5 Pump & Reservoir,AX360 Radiator w/ Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cooling,Ultimate Overclocking Performance+Extreme Silence at 18dBA)(All Venom OC Certified) [+323]
• FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
• HDD: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [-1] (1TB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security [+99])
• HDD2: 120GB Samsung 840 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 410MB/s Write [+126] (Single Drive)
• KEYBOARD1: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard [+5]
• MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/2133MHz Quad Channel Memory [+64] (Corsair or Major Brand)
• MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support) ASUS P9X79 LE Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ Remote GO!, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
• MOUSE1: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge [+4]
• NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
• NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
• NOISEREDUCE2: Power Supply Gasket [+5]
• NOISEREDUCE3: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
• OS: Microsoft® Windows 8 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+31]
• OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]
• POWERSUPPLY: * 1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+90]
• SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card [+30]
• TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-4960X Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+39]
• VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Dual GPU Video Card [+356] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
• WNC: 802.11b/g/n 300Mbps PCI Wireless Adapter Network Card [+26]
• _PRICE: (+3557)

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Build it yourself, save some money.

 

[grimgrinch]

Lol, I actually forgot to put in my post that I don't have the time this time to do my own build. Adding that info now!

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Get a 4770k and GTX 780 and call it a day.

 

[grimgrinch]

I read somewhere that BF4 is actually going to be somewhat optimized for the AMD cards because of the console platforms so they will have a slight advantage. I like the idea of going with an EVGA GTX 780 a lot though especially after seeing the problems that the hd7990 is having with coil wind
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-review-benchmark,3486-15.html

Comparing the intel 4770k to the 4960x (edited) I think I'll be happier with the 4960x in the long run.
http://ark.intel.com/compare/77779,75123 However the 4930K looks like a good in between choice. http://ark.intel.com/compare/77780,77779,75123

 

[Theocnoob]

I read somewhere that BF4 is actually going to be somewhat optimized for the AMD cards because of the console platforms so they will have a slight advantage. I like the idea of going with an EVGA GTX 780 a lot though.

Comparing the 4770k to the 4960k I think I'll be happier with the 4960k in the long run.
http://ark.intel.com/compare/77779,75123

4960X. There is no 4930K. I would hope you'd be happier with the $1000+ CPU vs the $330 CPU. But do you NEED IT? Not for gaming, you don't.

And build it yourself! What is this "I have no time" nonsense. You don't have 2 hours to put aside to throw the thing together? And a day of being loosely tied to the PC to get everything installed and set up?

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Single threaded performance will be better with a 4770k, you'll want that for gaming.

 

[grimgrinch]

Single threaded performance will be better with a 4770k, you'll want that for gaming.

Good to know! Thanks!

OK - went back to the drawing board on an Intel based system and got it down closer to what I want. Dropped the SSD and went with the i7-4930k. What ya think?

*BASE_PRICE: [+980]
CARE1: Cooler Master Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
CARE2: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
CAS: Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0 & Full Side-Panel Window [+55]
CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light [+10] (Blue Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: High-Performance Coolant powered by Koolance [+19] (Blue Color [+10])
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4930K Six-Core 3.40 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified) [+280]
ENGRAVING: Skull Design [+19]
FAN: CyberPower Xtreme Hydro Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ XSPC Rasa 750 RS360, Triple Fan(CPU & GPU Liquid Cool Capable, Extreme Overclocking Performance + Extreme Silent at 18dBA)(All Venom OC Certified) [+93]
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (1TB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 1 High Performance with Data Security [+71])
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/2133MHz Quad Channel Memory [+139] (Corsair Vengeance [+29])
MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support) ASUS P9X79 LE Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX w/ Remote GO!, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
NOISEREDUCE2: Power Supply Gasket [+5]
NOISEREDUCE3: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 Pro (64-bit Edition) [+135]
OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]
POWERSUPPLY: * 1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+107]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TUNING: Intel® Core™ i7-4930K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel [+39]
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+686] (EVGA Superclocked [+15])
11N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth 4.0 Expansion Card [+0]
_PRICE: ($2808)

 

[ATMINSIDE]

How much of an overclock are you going to try to run? Any more than Cyberpower puts on it?

 

[grimgrinch]

4960X. There is no 4930K. I would hope you'd be happier with the $1000+ CPU vs the $330 CPU. But do you NEED IT? Not for gaming, you don't.

And build it yourself! What is this "I have no time" nonsense. You don't have 2 hours to put aside to throw the thing together? And a day of being loosely tied to the PC to get everything installed and set up?

Hehe but there is a 4930K! I swear! lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116939

Hard to argue the old saying "you pay what you get for". I have a feeling I'll be happier with the 4930k in the long run and still save on some cash. Lol - the pressure of building my own rig, I've done a few before but that was before I had a kid and married.....you know the story... haha

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Get this, its more than enough for you and under budget.

Freebies: Intel GRID 2 Gaming Coupon
Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more)
Cooling Fan: * CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GIGABYTE Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable 5 Plus, On/Off Charge 2, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 3 PCIe x1 & 1 PCI (Extreme OC Certified)
Intel Smart Response Technology: None
Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (EVGA Superclocked)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: None
Freebies: None
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: 750 Watts - Corsair CX750 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Hard Drive: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 520MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Data Hard Drive: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
External Optical Drive: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
Mouse Pad: None
Headset: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
Video Camera: None
Tablet: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

 

[ATMINSIDE]

You don't need a 4930k for gaming. The two extra cores won't get used.

 

[grimgrinch]

How much of an overclock are you going to try to run? Any more than Cyberpower puts on it?

I haven't thought too much about it or done research on the 4930k yet - i've heard it may not be the best for overclocking - maybe 4.3-4.4ghz?

 

[ATMINSIDE]

I haven't thought too much about it or done research on the 4930k yet - i've heard it may not be the best for overclocking - maybe 4.3-4.4ghz?

Again, you don't need 6 cores with hyperthreading for gaming.

 

[grimgrinch]

Thanks ATMINSIDE. Wow, doing some quick reading I'm beginning to see why you are suggesting the 4770k. The overclock ability is amazing! I think I saw one post here up to 4.9ghz!

 

[Theocnoob]

Hehe but there is a 4930K! I swear! lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116939

Durh. Brain fart. I meant to say 4960K. Sorry...

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Durh. Brain fart. I meant to say 4960K. Sorry...

Its 4930K, bud.

 

[sobe]

^ Perhaps he meant 4960X and just put K instead

As far as your interest in overclocking grim:

They can go well beyond 4.9GHz, it really depends on the chip.... It's kind of a silicon lottery on what your chip that you end up with can do. For instance, I went through a couple of 3770k chips while MC had their sales and found the right one that would sit at 4.5GHz at the lowest vcore I could find, there was 1 that I had tested that required enough vcore that the 3770k I stuck with could use that vcore to hit 5GHz with.... So you never know what each chip will particularly do, just make sure whatever you aim for you have the proper cooling.

I agree fully with ATM's build with the 4770k and 780, I WOULD however probably change that power supply out for an Seasonic X750 or Corsair HX750 if you are going with the 750w.

 

[ATMINSIDE]

^ Perhaps he meant 4960X and just put K instead

I agree fully with ATM's build with the 4770k and 780, I WOULD however probably change that power supply out for an Seasonic X750 or Corsair HX750 if you are going with the 750w.

He said earlier "There isn't a 4930K"

I agree with the PSU, but I don't recall seeing a better 750W.

 

[grimgrinch]

I did some looking around and found this interesting article on the different CPU & GPU performance on the BF4 Beta. My guess is we'll see more utilization of 8 cores in the near future especially with the new consoles using 8 cores.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...rks-released-amd-takes-cpu-performance-crown/ AMD is tearing it up with the 8 cores.

Look at the GTX 690 go!