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danger den kits *newbie question*

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touser

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hi everyone, i was just wondering what the difference was between the danger den kits, between the cheapest and the most expensive? if i where to get the cheapest and buy my own pump would that be all i need to water cool my cpu or do i have to get a more expensive kit? also i have heard peltiers mentioned alot on these boards and some of the kits come with them and some dont....what do they do and how do they work?? thanks in advance for your time :).
 
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William

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ok, well I am going to assume you have an AMD. You want a kit with a Maze2 and the Cube radiator, its much better than the low pressure thing. Don't bother with a pelt, unless you are planning to go the absolute furthest you can with your cpu you don't need one. I would get your own pump and get a danner or eheim pump.
 

JML

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The more expensive kits are geared towards the use of peltiers. If you are new to this, stay away from peltiers! Wait until you are comfortable with your watercooler, and then when you have a some experience you can add a pelt if you like. What they do is pump heat from oneside to another. The "coldside" is rested on the cpu, and the hotside is where all the heat is pumped too. This "hotside" must also be cooled (ie a watercooler cooling the hotside). You will need to by an extra power supply for the peltier. Why peltiers are dangerous- They take your cpu below ambient tempature, which can lead to condensation forming on your cpu and mother board, shorting it out and destroying your stuff! The pumps DangerDen provides with its kits I have heard are of high quality. (I believe they are ehiem?)
 
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touser

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thank you william and JML, you cleared a few things up for me there my current system is not an amd though, it is an intel P4 1.7ghz with an abit TH7-Raid mobo, with a full tower case, I believe I will have enough room for everything in my case, so basically what I need in a kit then is a maze2 the dangerden cube radiator some arctic II thermal compound,a danner pump and some sort of reservoir like the one in this article http://www.overclockers.com/tips505/ and that should be all i need for a cooling setup or am i missing something here?
 

rugby

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You would also need some 120mm fans to mount on the radiator. I think the dangerden cube can use 2 fans if I'm not mistaken. Get high output fans, don't get the little quiet 120mm fans because it will make a big differences in temps. I've tried both and won't use quiet fans again. over 100 cfm will do nicely.
 

Flash

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rugby (Jul 16, 2001 05:09 a.m.):
You would also need some 120mm fans to mount on the radiator. I think the dangerden cube can use 2 fans if I'm not mistaken. Get high output fans, don't get the little quiet 120mm fans because it will make a big differences in temps. I've tried both and won't use quiet fans again. over 100 cfm will do nicely.

The loud vs. quiet decision is really one of priorities, I think. In my case I definitely prefer the quiet Panaflo's to the loud Sunon 120mm fans. In fact, the Sunon I have is so loud at full speed that I almost always run it at 7volts--and it's *still* louder than my 120mm Panaflo. So, I'd probably get better cooling using a Panaflo at full speed rather than using the Sunon at 7v.

Also, the temperature difference between running the Sunon at full bore and running it at 7v is only about 1.5-2 degrees C. So in short, I vote for quiet!