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Electron Chaser

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Maviryk said:
Maybe half a 747? :shrug:

Even if they are 6dba quieter than the TFBs, I would guess somewhere around 35dba with a distinct bearing/motor whine that Deltas generally have.

If you are going to venture a guess. Then I guess I had better take the guess work out of it and make a video of it running at 7 Volts so you can hear just what it sounds like.

Joe Camel said:
ya, the clips will keep the thing from "lifting off", but i wouldnt trust them to hold the fan on when the mobo is vertical...this fan is as heavy as it is big!!

come to think of it, i dont know if i would trust the (A64) HSF bolts to hold vertically.


E.C. did you (feel the need to) add additional support to your HSF when you had (have?) this fan on your HS?



EDIT:
everyone who reads this thread needs to add their name to Sidewinder's "Notify me when in stock" list so this becomes a reality!!


Oh yeah this fan is heavy, well over a pound of heavy ( 570 grams or 20.10 ounces)

As for the additional support, Nah I just used the clips on the XP-120. They hold extremely well I ran it at full speed on the HSF for over a week until I took it off to mount for my new MB cooler that I made for my new case without any problems what so ever.

Once more like Joe Camel stated please take a second to click on the link below to respond to Sidewinder and help out your fellow Overclockers.


CLick HERE for link to Sidewinder Computer Website Delta 120x76mm GFB1212VHW
 

Maviryk

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four4875 said:
it could double, i promise. i have a pic of mine mounted on a BIX3 if anyone wants to druel lol. if sidewinder does get them, im buying at least 2 more to fill my BIX3. maybe another on the bakc of the case or somethin. and for the food processor comment... i think it could easily double as one... i brought a knuckle across it once, and it felt as if it were about as hard as a lawnmower to stop. and the counter rotating means it will hve more chance to grind up everything passing through haha. if to be used near small anmals and children, i highly reccomend grills, as there isnt even a hub to protect on one side, its all blades.

Omg... 3 of them running at once? Possibly more? so like.. six GFBs on a BIX3...

You know... I'd recommend hearing protection if you do that.. :eek:

Safety first!
 

Wiggles

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Maviryk said:
Omg... 3 of them running at once? Possibly more? so like.. six GFBs on a BIX3...

You know... I'd recommend hearing protection if you do that.. :eek:

Safety first!

Yes, follow GMPs

But six GFBs on a BIX3 would be overkill. But, this is the "over"clockers forum so if your going to kill, might as well "over"kill.
 

four4875

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not 6. maybe 3 with shrouds, and another in the back of case, maybe one on side, but prolly not. ans all at 7 vs or maybe a little less.

31 watts x4 fans... thats 124 watts, i think with 6 one would definately have some load on their power, damn near need another to cool the psu after the load! haha. but at the lowered voltage the power should drip to 18 watts each totaling at 72 watts for 4 of them running, not AS bad lol. i will be kinda dissapointed if they fo get in stock tho, caus i wont be special having one of these then lol. and i like being special.
 
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Electron Chaser

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That is the same reason why I want 4 so I can replace these on my Monstercore rad with something a little bigger. LOL

Rad1.JPG
 

z0n3

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It will,hopefully, go down when they get them in stock. If they sell out fast I wonder if they will make more? Or raise the price? It is sidewinder so I doubt they would sell for something unfair if these become an indemand item.
 

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WoW E.C. i like your plan!!

now i know what the non ghetto version of my setup would look like...
i have something similar...


but with more ....ducktape


GPU / TEC cooling loop (sig): twin Fedco 2-342 (single pass) rads in series with a (fan cooled) D4 pump @ 16V. 4x Nidec Beta V 120+CFM


4xnidec5dq.jpg



guess why i want (a total of) 4x of these super fans ;)

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2x quick questions,

1) do you think an interior divider shroud would be advised when using 4x fans?
ie a big " + " to divide the rad surface into 4 sections; 1x for each fan.


2)what do you think the "optimal" shroud depth would be with these fans?

since the point of a shroud is to reduce the dead zone in the air pattern caused by the hub/motor of the fan...and these fans have the 2nd fan that seems to "redistribute" the pattern... id assume it could be reduced :shrug:

i seem to recall a rule-of-thumb as: 1x - 1.5x the hub diameter off the rad face is "optimal" shroud depth.
(the one above is 2.5" between fan and rad face; with 2" hubs and no interior shrouding)
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Electron Chaser

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Joe Camel said:
WoW E.C. i like your plan!!

now i know what the non ghetto version of my setup would look like...
i have something similar...


but with more ....ducktape


GPU / TEC cooling loop (sig): twin Fedco 2-342 (single pass) rads in series with a (fan cooled) D4 pump @ 16V. 4x Nidec Beta V 120+CFM


4xnidec5dq.jpg



guess why i want (a total of) 4x of these super fans ;)

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2x quick questions,

1) do you think an interior divider shroud would be advised when using 4x fans?
ie a big " + " to divide the rad surface into 4 sections; 1x for each fan.


2)what do you think the "optimal" shroud depth would be with these fans?

since the point of a shroud is to reduce the dead zone in the air pattern caused by the hub/motor of the fan...and these fans have the 2nd fan that seems to "redistribute" the pattern... id assume it could be reduced :shrug:

i seem to recall a rule-of-thumb as: 1x - 1.5x the hub diameter off the rad face is "optimal" shroud depth.
(the one above is 2.5" between fan and rad face; with 2" hubs and no interior shrouding)
.

Thanks man, Yeah I think I have a pretty good idea why you want 4 of these as well :)

1) If you were using some typical 120mm fans then a divider would be almost a must for optimal cooling. However there is nothing typical about these fans. Therefore I really don't think it is a necessary, but it sure couldn't hurt either. I mean we are talking about moving 880 CFM through this rad.

2) As far as shroud depth is concerned. These fans have a very small dead spot and move a ton of air. That said 1.5 to 2" should be fine.
 

vogster

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I added my name to the list to be notified at sidewinder. I think if they come down in price a bit I might pick 1 up if just for the novelty. :)
 

Son1990

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Just got the notification e-mail, here is a little bit of it for those who didnt request notification:

As a sidenote, for those that havn't noticed, part # TFB1212UHE (234 CFM) was replacing TFB1212GHE (220 CFM)

First off, we placed our order for both fans back in October in addition to a restock and new inventory of many EFB, FFB and TFB parts you may have seen on our site in the last few weeks. Due to the extremely high cost of the GFB1212VHW, we only committed to a few boxes.
We were shipped the bulk of our order by Delta in early December. The TFB1212UHE and GFB1212VHW parts were not shipped. I sent an inquiry to Delta, and was told that the order for the GFB part was cancelled due to a minimum requirement of 192 pieces.

The letter goes on thanking us in this thread and Joe (Ec)
 

Achilles17

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Here's the full text for anyone who didn't subscribe:

SideWinder Computers said:
Good morning,
If you're receiving this email, at one time or another you asked to be notified when the above products was back in stock at Sidewinder Computers. You may have submitted more than one request, in which case you may receive the same email twice. Since many have asked where they are, I'm writing to give you a status update on these two parts.
As a sidenote, for those that havn't noticed, part # TFB1212UHE (234 CFM) was replacing TFB1212GHE (220 CFM)

First off, we placed our order for both fans back in October in addition to a restock and new inventory of many EFB, FFB and TFB parts you may have seen on our site in the last few weeks. Due to the extremely high cost of the GFB1212VHW, we only committed to a few boxes.
We were shipped the bulk of our order by Delta in early December. The TFB1212UHE and GFB1212VHW parts were not shipped. I sent an inquiry to Delta, and was told that the order for the GFB part was cancelled due to a minimum requirement of 192 pieces.

Thanks to those of you who have expressed interested in this part over the last few weeks, and to Joe at OCForums.com, we recommitted to Delta for their minimum quantity and asked the order be expedited. Two days later, Delta cancelled our order for both TFB1212UHE and GFB1212VHW due to a quality control issue. Delta did not elaborate on this, nor why they failed to notify us about the TFB model until 6 weeks later. But, this is the same reason that we were given when our order for GFB parts was cancelled in 2003.

Its not much, but this is the latest update I have at this point on these two Delta fans. I don't think our fight is over to bring these two in, we are working to aquire them from a different Delta factory. If we are unsuccessful and they can't make these fans, we will try to reaquire TFB1212GHE since we've obtained them in the past. It begs the question as to why they're still advertising these items in their product lines. One thing is for sure is our cost will more than likely go up as a result of the import/export costs to produce in another factory, but at this point Sidewinder is committed to obtaining them one way or another. The typical Delta leadtime for production is 4 to 6 weeks, at this point the earliest we may see them is late February.

As soon as we get some solid information available we'll be sure to pass it along to you all, without spamming your mailboxes. You may also visit this OCForums thread, as any new information may be posted here http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=429726&page=1&pp=30
 

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that email was something happy to wake up to on a christmas mornig. and since im pretty sure at least one sidewinder rep will be lookin through here, I ****IN LOVE SIDEWINDER! rock on guys, i really hope you manage to get more in, these fans are awesome, although a bit loud, they move enough air to blow all of the papers off a coworkers desk from 6 feet away. When i first got my one from EC's score a couple months back, i was excited to show it off and try it out for the first time. i twisted the power wires together for the 2 motors and stuck them in an unused moled. holding the fan with a death grip, (when i firs tried a tornado unmounted it startled me with its spinning itself around) i pushed the power button. "WHOOOOO!" said the fan, and "damnit jim dont do that while im on the phone" said brian. it was great, nd i hope many others can experience such a massive fan. again i heart sidewinder.

also, the tail end of the email says "If you know someone who wants to be on this list, ask them to email [email protected] with "Subscribe Delta" in the subject line. Thank you. " please everyone do so, or of course use the link on the first page, i really hope we can get together a big enough commitment to pull this off.
 
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Yeah it is not very good news I know. I spoke with Gary a few days ago on the phone to get an update and he told me the news. I wasn't going to say anything until he posted the Newsletter. He is still making a very concerted effort to get them in for us and he has his purchasing agent over there working on it. Let's all keep our fingers crossed on this.

Merry Christmas :santa:

EC
 

millhouse

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Not good news at all. Its good to know that Sidewinder cares enough to continue working so hard to get these in though. Thats the way all of these places should be. :beer:
 

sir_pyro

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Just got the e-mail about these and stock... I think I've been on the list I'd LOVE to have one for my X-Qpack and it's rad, along with two or three for my home gaming rig... The 38mm deep fan I have right now isnt filling up the gobbs of free space I have near the fan in the X-Qpack
.
So, Sidewinder, I'm in for three if you get them! If people can confirm them quiet, I'd make it 5.
 

Joe Camel

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buahahahaha!!!

this fan is not about quiet. its about: all-out, balls-to-the-wall, move as much air as possible...and quiet aint part of that :p

a 92mm Tornado is "quiet" VS. this fan @ full power.
(thats a slight exaggeration ;))