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Did I just get a bad i5-8600k?

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I think your 8700k is maybe slightly above average but far from unicorn status
 
The golden rule of good overclocking is do things in increments.
 
1st boot on my 8600k and default voltage is 1.136V ... even memory runs at XMP 3733 ;)
 
While I was looking for definite information about OC'ing my 8700 found that people insist on going straight to 1.35V and sticking there. My personal experience is that excess voltage is bad too for overclocking.

Loafing thru many different threads noticed this, all go blindly and stick to 1.35V. Question is... why? My 8700 is happy at x50 multi with AVX -2 cache goes up at x46 multi too at 1.275V. Found other 8600K that roar at similar voltages too. VCSSA/VCCIO too can help to tame temps (everything helps a bit).

Have you tried to go lower (i.e: 1.3V), test... (1 Hour of Prime95) if passes down a notch and still? (I know that's a long and tedious process but wondering if I found an unicorn with my 8700K).

Yes. I started testing 4.7ghz from 1.25v and up. It would bsod on anything lower than 1.33, at which it didn't crash, but one core failed a few minutes into the test. On 1.34, one core would fail at around 12 minutes, and on 1.35, at 50 minutes. I have left it testing at 1.36v while I'm at work. If one core fails again, I'll just lower the frequency to 4.6, since temps are starting to get hot at this point.

Btw, HWMonitor was only displaying up to 1.28v before I left. I have no idea if it's just not reading the voltage correctly (I checked with core temp and it showed the same info) or if my mobo has a strange way of working with voltages.
 
Yes. I started testing 4.7ghz from 1.25v and up. It would bsod on anything lower than 1.33, at which it didn't crash, but one core failed a few minutes into the test. On 1.34, one core would fail at around 12 minutes, and on 1.35, at 50 minutes. I have left it testing at 1.36v while I'm at work. If one core fails again, I'll just lower the frequency to 4.6, since temps are starting to get hot at this point.

Btw, HWMonitor was only displaying up to 1.28v before I left. I have no idea if it's just not reading the voltage correctly (I checked with core temp and it showed the same info) or if my mobo has a strange way of working with voltages.

Quite possible your motherboard suffers from V_Droop which causes the voltage to drop under load. Look for LLC settings in your BIOS this should help level the voltage out and possibly allow you to lower the initial voltage.
 
Quite possible your motherboard suffers from V_Droop which causes the voltage to drop under load. Look for LLC settings in your BIOS this should help level the voltage out and possibly allow you to lower the initial voltage.

Thanks, I'll check out those settings when I get back home :D
 
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Would you recommend any of these boards?
MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS
ASUS TUF Z370 PLUS GAMING

I might consider selling the one I have and get one of those.

Don't have to worry about overclocking with the Gigabyte D3, It has Current limit throttling and VRM thermal throttling for safety when you push the wattage to the limit. For moderate overclocking with Z370 4 phase Gigabyte you won't reach the limit from what I have seen in the forums.

For LLC on Gigabyte set it on High and it will set the Vcore close to what you set in BIOS for Vcore.
LLC load line calibration is a setting to bypass the Intel specifications.

Load-Line Calibration (LLC) is a mechanism offered to overclockers designed to compensate for large voltage droops when a CPU or GPU is under increased load. The mechanism attempts to compensate for the sudden sagging in voltage by preemptively applying additional voltage. The LLC, which is part of the voltage regulator module, was introduced in order to ensure a more smooth voltage delivery when the CPU/GPU is both idle as well as under heavy load, thereby eliminating related system instability or crashes on overclocked systems. This feature is aimed at overclockers as for normal systems the LLC is usually disabled by default because typical Vdroop is part of the system specification. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/load-line_calibration

load_voltage_and_droop_and_llc.jpg
 
These are my results after an 8 hour test. Finally got those stable 4.7ghz :') Yes, I am aware of the high temps, but, as you can see, my fans weren't spinning at their supposed speeds. They were supposed to work at 100% as soon as temps reached 80c. I'm going to try to fix that and do a quick test to check temps afterwards.

This test was done with 1.36v and LLC on standard. As I'm typing this I can see the voltage pretty much stable between 1.33 and 1.36v. Would it be worth it to set LLC to high and try to get the voltage down to 1.34 or 1.33? Or would it provide the same performance as right now?

4 punto 7 ghz estables.png
 
So, for some reason, Smart Fan 5 is reading "System 1" temps for the CPU fan instead of the "CPU" temps, even though that's what is set in input temperature... Any idea how to fix this?
 
Why is your CPU fan showing max RPM at less than a grand? No wonder your temps are high.
 
Why is your CPU fan showing max RPM at less than a grand? No wonder your temps are high.

Because that's not its max RPM. Like I said, it wasn't spinning at its supposed speed. I found out the BIOS was taking "System 1" temps as input for the CPU fan even though "CPU" was selected. I tried fixing it installing Argus Monitor and controlling the CPU fan from there, but it only works for a while before dropping the fan's RPM to 500. I'll try reseting the BIOS and see if that fixes the issue.

I also tried 1.33v with LLC set at high and it actually gave me even higher temps lol. Then I tried 1.35v with LLC set at standard and it crashed at around 30 minutes. It seems 4.7ghz at 1.36v with LLC at standard is my limit. Might leave it at 4.6 and see how much I can lower the voltage to try to keep temps down.

Thanks for everything.
 
Does the CPU fan speed spin full speed when over 80c with default fan speed in BIOS? I don't like windows software to control fan speed I would remove it.
 
Does the CPU fan speed spin full speed when over 80c with default fan speed in BIOS? I don't like windows software to control fan speed I would remove it.

Yeah, it's set to reach full speed at 65c. I just removed the software to control it since it didn't really work. Resetting the BIOS seems to have done the trick. I'll test for temps.
 
I was wondering what did you do to reset the BIOS? When stress testing anyting under 90c is fine. I go up to 95c maximum with prime95.
 
I was wondering what did you do to reset the BIOS? When stress testing anyting under 90c is fine. I go up to 95c maximum with prime95.

Well, I just loaded the optimized defaults lol. And yeah, I know, but just bothers me that I could get lower temps if only the CPU fan was working as it should.

In the end, it reads the temps just fine when I'm in the BIOS, but it starts taking the wrong temps as input as soon as I get to windows. So I just set a very steep curve to try to achieve the RPM I'm supposed to be getting.
 
No problem I use optimized defaults a lot I'm always messing with my BIOS all the time. The problem you had sounds confusing. So your saying with default BIOS settings the CPU fan would not run full speed 80c? The reason I'm asking is I'm thinking of purchasing the Z370 HD3 and it has the same fan controller and I don't wan't to set any fan profiles, I like to leave it stock.
 
My approach is backwards from most. I find the max voltage I'm comfortable with and start bumping up speed until it won't go faster under my voltage ceiling. If it's too hot, I lower voltage and get my best speed under the new ceiling. Temps are a hard ceiling, as is voltage for me. I don't want to kill my chip or appreciably shorten its life. Finding an OC that's safe 24/7, then turning all the C states and EIST back on leaves me with a set and forget OC.
 
No problem I use optimized defaults a lot I'm always messing with my BIOS all the time. The problem you had sounds confusing. So your saying with default BIOS settings the CPU fan would not run full speed 80c? The reason I'm asking is I'm thinking of purchasing the Z370 HD3 and it has the same fan controller and I don't wan't to set any fan profiles I like to leave it stock.

The default settings *should* make the CPU fan run full speed at 65c, at least that's what the default curve says it should do. However, in practice, the fan controller doesn't take into account the actual temperature of the CPU to control the speed, but a temperature labeled as "System 1", which seems to be the lower part of my mobo. Since this part doesn't get as hot the CPU, the CPU fan never goes beyond 900-1000 RPM whatever the actual CPU temp is. If it was reading the right temperature, it would go up to 1600 RPM as soon as the CPU reached 65c.

I have no idea if this is an issue everyone is having or if it's just my board.
 
I got lucky with my i5 7600k and Z170 HD3 all I did was set the multiplier to 4.8GHz and XMP then voltage looked fine and RealBench passed 4 hours.:D My i5 6600k I had to increase the DVID +0.160 and XMP that was it.:)

I only mess with all the BIOS setting when I'm just having fun then flash the BIOS set my easy BIOS profiles.
 
The default settings *should* make the CPU fan run full speed at 65c, at least that's what the default curve says it should do. However, in practice, the fan controller doesn't take into account the actual temperature of the CPU to control the speed, but a temperature labeled as "System 1", which seems to be the lower part of my mobo. Since this part doesn't get as hot the CPU, the CPU fan never goes beyond 900-1000 RPM whatever the actual CPU temp is. If it was reading the right temperature, it would go up to 1600 RPM as soon as the CPU reached 65c.

I have no idea if this is an issue everyone is having or if it's just my board.

Wow I have not heard of that from anyone else. On my Gigabyte motherboard the default fan speed of the CPU at 64c is 1800 RPM and 75c 1950 MAX RPM.
When you manually set the CPU fan speed calibration does it work fine? The case temperatures like you say are slow to change.
Sounds like it might be problem with the PWM of your fan on the CPU. Or the controller is a problem, can you switch the CPU fan to Voltage control or try PWM? see if that will work.
Do you have the latest BIOS update?
 
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