Difficulty installing drivers

[67Elco]

Recently I'm having a devil of a time getting drivers installed after a fresh OS install. At first I thought it was something I had deleted from my stripping down of OS's, but the problem remains even with a stock OS install. I'm trending toward thinking now it is a ASUS bug. I have no such problems with my MSI mb's. It's occurring on a ASUS X870-PLUS WiFi mb. I can download the drivers directly from ASUS or have them on a usb with the same result. After extracting the run applications refuse to open...the screen blinks and nothing else from there. ASUS's driver utility will briefly pop up, but it then disappears. Anyone have any ideas? This sure is taking the fun out of playing with my 9950X. Btw, it makes no difference be it Win 10 or Win 11.

 

[Janus67]

is it any particular driver or all of them have this problem?

 

[EarthDog]

I vaguely recall seeing that... I thought the driver actually installed, the one/two that did it (the rest were fine).

But yeah, which drivers, exactly?

 

[67Elco]

Maybe one out of the 6-7 drivers would actually open and install...can't recall which one it is. I'm flashing the bios atm to the most recent update to see if that has any effect. The ASUS Driver utility not working is a real problem.

 

[don256us]

Do you have an active AV running? That might interfere. Other than that, I'm at a loss.

 

[67Elco]

No AV or Defender. The bios flash did nothing for me concerning this problem...I am at a loss as well. Really not liking ASUS atm.

Update: I just let Windows do a massive update, but nothing has helped.

 

[EarthDog]

he ASUS Driver utility not working is a real problem.

Have you tried installing through Armory Crate?

 

[67Elco]

Have you tried installing through Armory Crate?

I finally managed to get that app open and installed, but there is nothing inside concerning drivers.



I'm going to make one last bone stock Win 11 install to be certain it is not OS related. After that I'll make a decision on this ASUS mb.

 

[Janus67]

Can you link to the packages that you're downloading? Are video, chipset, etc drivers all fine (as you can get those from the manufacturer)?

 

[67Elco]

Can you link to the packages that you're downloading? Are video, chipset, etc drivers all fine (as you can get those from the manufacturer)?

Initially everything worked fine with this mb, but the past few days something has gone askew. Maybe I stressed something OCing or the 25+ OS installs?

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Update: With the stock Win 11 install ASUS Driver Utility popped right up and I'm installing all drivers atm. There must be something being deleted in these other OS's that is preventing them from opening. I've not had a problem before...perhaps it's that Chris Titus program I run afterwards. https://christitus.com/windows-tool/

I've seen enough. Installing Ghost 10 right now and will not introduce any scripts.

Update 2: Well, it appears there may be conflicts on two different levels. When I began the journey into NLite I experimented with nearly all of my usb OS .iso's and now they are all "infected" lol. I'm going to have to DL all new .iso's now. Good news is I have determined the problem and yes it was self inflicted. I have Tiny 10 installed on the bencher now and it is installing all my drivers through the ASUS Driver Utility as it should. Thanks for humoring this old crippled soul for a spell.

 

[deathstar13]

Ive been plagued with missing drivers after every install. Its always the wifi,Lan controller and bluetooth. The drivers on thier website is a joke i think as they do nothing.
My digging got it narrowed down to the Armory Crate and specifically the Asus driver hub thats built into it.

i also experienced weird driver instals from drivers off the website. They open and start and then just vanish into thin air.
Why Asus would put drivers in the Hub only is beyond me except they are forcing people to Download the Armory Crate.

 

[67Elco]

I found nothing inside of AC that had anything to do with drivers. The ASUS Driver HUB is enabled through the bios and it won't install without internet connection...it is a separate entity from the AC. You won't find the ASUS Driver Hub listed anywhere on site because it is built into the bios. In other words, the ASUS Driver Hub gives you the option to download AC...AC it is not mandatory to get the drivers you need. In fact I see little to be gained from the AC other than some fancy RGB capabilities. It will also add about 30 running processes when installed.

 

[don256us]

I've had other manufactures with a similar scheme of a unified updater for their MB. The last one I had worked when new but the company stopped updating it so new drivers were never listed in their "hub". So I get the fun of spending time making it work only then have to spend more time getting the drivers myself manually.

Seems like they have turned a positive selling aspect of a MB into a negative for the end user.

 

[EarthDog]

So..... I just installed all of the drivers on my Asus X870E E-Gaming Wifi without issue. I installed Windows using a local account, then manually installed my LAN. After that, I used the Asus Driver Hub successfully to install what I wanted (installed the latest chipset diver, which was not there yet). The BT driver I didn't "see" (was a blip on the screen) but installed fine.

 

[67Elco]

If you want to verify just how much bloat the AC adds just install it and look at Task Manager before and after.

 

[don256us]

I used to worry about bloat. Back in the day there was a guy who went by Black Viper (I think). I tried to follow his guides. If you got too aggressive, things would break. Our network Admin at the time really loved this guy and started to impliment these strategies on our production machines. Broke too much for our users and we had to reimage a few dozen machines.

These days, my machines are more powerful than I need. Well... More powa means more gooder. What I mean to say is that my machines rarely make me wait to use them so... I'm happy.

Why do you trim your OS? What is your use case? Why might I want to do this too?

 

[67Elco]

I used to worry about bloat. Back in the day there was a guy who went by Black Viper (I think). I tried to follow his guides. If you got too aggressive, things would break. Our network Admin at the time really loved this guy and started to impliment these strategies on our production machines. Broke too much for our users and we had to reimage a few dozen machines.

These days, my machines are more powerful than I need. Well... More powa means more gooder. What I mean to say is that my machines rarely make me wait to use them so... I'm happy.

Why do you trim your OS? What is your use case? Why might I want to do this too?

You are correct...it is more than easy to break things. I only began trimming for a benching OS...bloat and excessive processes have a huge impact. For a daily/general use pc it's not worth the effort, but I still remove the bulk of the glaring bloat as a general rule.

 

[EarthDog]

If you want to verify just how much bloat the AC adds just install it and look at Task Manager before and after.

It's pretty well known how bloated AC is... it's also a pain to actually unistall it... to the point where Asus has a procedure and file. That said, they have a new out... that's supposedly a lot ligther (according to its own notes)....

Our network Admin at the time really loved this guy and started to impliment these strategies on our production machines. Broke too much for our users and we had to reimage a few dozen machines.

That network guy.......yikes. Yikes.

I only began trimming for a benching OS...bloat and excessive processes have a huge impact.

And that's about the only place. Just not worth the time and effort unless you're competing at Hwbot.

 

[67Elco]

It's pretty well known how bloated AC is... it's also a pain to actually unistall it... to the point where Asus has a procedure and file. That said, they have a new out... that's supposedly a lot ligther (according to its own notes)....



And that's about the only place. Just not worth the time and effort unless you're competing at Hwbot.

Yeah, I made sure I downloaded their uninstall tool for AC first before testing it out lol.

It's worth the effort to trim a OS for those that have older, less powerful pc's. Thankfully those folks have a great many options available to them via already debloated OS's.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

No AV or Defender. The bios flash did nothing for me concerning this problem...I am at a loss as well. Really not liking ASUS atm.

Update: I just let Windows do a massive update, but nothing has helped.

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That all looks like stuff that is not part of the motherboard. Do you have a card with USB ports and network capabilities plugged in?

Of course, I'm going to ask dumb questions here, but I lack the information to know otherwise.

When you open network adapters, what shoes there? I see you are connected to the internet already. So the network controller on the board is working, or we looking at a different wifi card installed?

Are all these devices working properly according to windows?

Does your keyboard or something else have a USB port on it? Drivers required?

OK, which motherboard USB ports are not working if the driver isn't installed?

Reason I'm saying this, is because almost always the SMBus driver isn't installed until you do it and it'll cover other things during the installation. Like the onboard wifi for example.

I've also noticed that (what I can remember, it was a while ago) SMBus?" might have been a couple pop ups of DOS and no actual confirmation of an installation. A good restart seemed to take care of that one.

Lastly,
Specifically what is the NF 12C Slave device? ( I would definitely just google that one) I've never seen it before.