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EVGA x299 Dark and a i9-9820x Processor still good????

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MaddMutt

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I have never been known for making the right decision sometimes. :facepalm:

I was currently looking at upgrading my x99/i7-5960x setup to a 10c/20t processor. I had debated just going with the next chip (i7-6950x) but as I would have been told, that's old tech.
I recently had a good deal drop in my lap for a i9-9820x (10c/20t) and a x299 Dark MB.
I purchased it but did I improve my setup??
My i7-5960x could hit 4.7GHz all cores on a AIO. :comp:
There is no info on the i9-9820x for me to compare against to say the better choice was - i7-6950x or i9-7900x or i9-9820x. :chair:

^ I know the i9-9900k is a great chip but I still have not completely explored my i7-8700k (de-lidded) and my Asus z370 Maximus X Code. The 10c/20t comes into play later for several 3D benches. I had also looked at the AMD side but even with more cores, the 3D Scores where not there. :(

Thank You For Your Time :)
 
Still Good? For? Benching?

^ Yea I forgot that part :rofl: I was looking at the benching side.
My i7-5960x was topped out at 4.7 with a AIO and 5.1 with Dice.
From the info at HWBot.org the :
- i7-6950x - 4.6 with AIO and 5.0 with LN2.
- i9-7900x - 4.6 with AIO and 5.4 with LN2.
- i9-9820x - No information has been submitted. I guess I will be the first submitter with this processor.
From our review of the EVGA x299 Dark, I know the board is capable of handling the CPU. It's the unknown of the new cpu that I'm questioning. I know the i9-7900x needed a de-lid for good performance. If everything stayed the same with the speed of the chip, I should at-least see improvements just from the IMC side. <- Going from DDR4-3000 ~ 3200 to DDR4-3866 ~ 4133.
 
I was the first to submit with an i7 970, it’s nice to be able to blaze a trail.

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For clarification, sorry.

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EVGA has now promo prices on some products, including the X299 Dark. I'm thinking if it's a good idea to buy one as I left with one X299 mobo which is ITX/SODIMM and I bet I wish to bench my 7900X one day. So what is stopping me? X299 is already old and within a year we will probably see a new platform. 9k series processors are not offering much above what we could do on the 7k series. This is actually the main reason why you can't see many 9k CPUs in OC rankings. Those who spent a lot of money on top 7k CPUs won't buy anything new that isn't really performing better. If you see results on high 9k series chips then check closer who is posting them. Most are from sponsored sources. Nowadays it's like most top scores = pure marketing.

9900K is a better option for benching than 10 core X chips. It overclocks higher so even though has less cores, it gives better results in most benchmarks. There are exceptions as always but I just don't think it's worth to buy 10 core X CPU for benching nowadays. You go for 12+ cores or you can count on pretty average results. If you get 10 cores and won't bench it on LN2 then you will lose to guys on AIO coolers and 9900K. Good 8700K seems like a best option for most older benchmarks, even better than 9900K as it heats up less. If you stick to LN2 then 9900K offers the best results for the price.
Don't look at average OC results on hwbot. It's just like a bunch of guys submitting barely overclocked results on AIO or air and on top you have a couple of those who bench on LN2.

MaddMutt, better check what hardware you really have and really want to bench (like what is fully functional and worth your time). Check if it's worth to spend next $1k on a CPU+mobo for benching and if yes then check available options like maybe 9900K or just wait some time and till then make max out of your current rigs.
Don't mean me wrong but you have a lot of graphics cards and a lot of other stuff but you jump from one to another without even finishing the tests. Most your graphics cards will work better with CPU at high clock and less cores. For 3-4 GPU setups maybe X299 will be a good idea.
 
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Freeze what you have

Don't get caught up up in all the fuss.

Just have them drop off a 240 at you house and have fun

 
MaddMutt, better check what hardware you really have and really want to bench (like what is fully functional and worth your time). Check if it's worth to spend next $1k on a CPU+mobo for benching and if yes then check available options like maybe 9900K or just wait some time and till then make max out of your current rigs.
Don't mean me wrong but you have a lot of graphics cards and a lot of other stuff but you jump from one to another without even finishing the tests. Most your graphics cards will work better with CPU at high clock and less cores. For 3-4 GPU setups maybe X299 will be a good idea.
This.

MM I feel like you ask this question quarterly. Take stock of what you have and make a plan instead of throwing it up on a wall. It may save you money and get you more boints.
 
MaddMutt, better check what hardware you really have and really want to bench (like what is fully functional and worth your time). Check if it's worth to spend next $1k on a CPU+mobo for benching and if yes then check available options like maybe 9900K or just wait some time and till then make max out of your current rigs.
Don't mean me wrong but you have a lot of graphics cards and a lot of other stuff but you jump from one to another without even finishing the tests. Most your graphics cards will work better with CPU at high clock and less cores. For 3-4 GPU setups maybe X299 will be a good idea.

^ I know I need to sit down and complete my SLI/CF 2x, 3x, and 4x benching :chair:

That's why I told Johan45 that I could never be a reviewer.
 
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MaddMutt take this for what it's worth. I've watched you bench and seen results. You are better off learning how to tweak better, then as Witchy put it, "get caught up in all the fuss" of getting the biggest baddest processor for "Core Power" on 3d mark.
 
MaddMutt take this for what it's worth. I've watched you bench and seen results. You are better off learning how to tweak better then as Witchy put it get caught up in all the fuss of getting the biggest baddest processor for "Core Power" on 3d mark.
+1

So much low hanging fruit, in particular with the hardware you already have. :)
 
MM, I don't know why but I thought you are thinking about this CPU+mobo combo and you actually said in the 1st post that you purchased it. No idea if you had time to play with it. Can start a thread with OC progress to keep all stuff in one place. Anyway if you haven't seen it yet then here is a guide that may help you as this mobo is let's say not the easiest for overclocking:
https://xdevs.com/guide/e299ocg/
 
I recently had a good deal drop in my lap for a i9-9820x (10c/20t) and a x299 Dark MB.
I purchased it but did I improve my setup??

Since you already have it, rock it. Yeah, that's a better combo for benching than you had. I'm thinking of getting one of those 9820X processors myself since prices are a bit lower than some other i9 X-series currently on the market. I found one for $799 and would buy one if they'd drop prices a couple more Ben Franklins. I also saw that nobody had benched it yet in hwbot. It would be fun to be a trailblazer. Do you already have DDR4 RAM?
 
MM, any news regarding your new setup? I think you have it for over a week now.
Just curious as I got my X299 Dark yesterday and already had a little problem or maybe two :)
 
I've got the processor this week and I'm buying the Motherboard on Monday from -> https://www.ebay.com/usr/joes-n*n*r-motherboards?ul_noapp=true
The EVGA x299 Dark is not listed as they pulled it so I could buy it. They made sure the board is working and has the latest BIOS installed for the i9-9820x. I have already committed to buying the MB. They have now also offered a i9-9900x + the x299 Dark for a yet disclosed price.
I have a Quad Setup of Samsung E's that can hit 3866/3900 @ 12-19-19-28 1T and B's that are Woomack Certified UP TO 4000 @ 12-12-12-28 1T.

Here are the Tempting Screen Shots of the x299/i9-9900x OCed to 5GHz that they sent me :thup:

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Can ask them for AIDA64 memory benchmark with full timings window like asus memtweakit but I guess you will check that soon ;) ... just curious as I get 30-33GB/s write and no matter what I do it hits 30-33GB/s wall in dual or quad channel with 8GB or 16GB memory modules and at auto/manual/XMP settings. Read/copy is scalling correctly. Usually this issue was happening at higher clock when motherboards were forcing really relaxed tertiary timings. Even on Supermicro it was working good (actually SuperO X299 is overclocking memory really good but is harder to set than ASUS/ASRock).

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2 days fighting with the mobo and I just got a broken CPU. With the mobo I got 7800X which I wanted to use in my 24/7 rig on ITX mobo. Switched CPUs today and the same problem was in the other rig. Have to return the CPU on Monday. The CPU was unpacked but supposed to be new.
 
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That is a bummer.. Hopefully the RMA will not take a month before you get a replacement :)
 
That sucks Bart.

Does the board work? I've had 2 different evga boards take out two cpus. One after a short time, another apparently on first boot taking out a known good CPU.
 
The board works great ... at least with my old 7900X. Will test it some more tomorrow.
 
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