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EVGA x299 Dark and a i9-9820x Processor still good????

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I got the memory running at 3600 1.6v & 3733 1.625v @ 16-16-16-30 1T. I have some AIDA64 Memory Tests and CB15 Test at 3600 and 3733 :) I got a AIDA test at 3800 with 1.675v but failed (BSOD) CB15. I'm still running 1.3v on the SA & VCCIN . I have got it to boot at 4000 1.750v :) not sure if it's CB15 stable yet :(
I hope to get a higher clock with the Custom Loop as 4.8 is to :mad: for the AIO. Even 4.7GHz is pushing it @ 85c on the :mad: Cores. I have 2 that hit 71c-72c and 3 that hit 75c-76c
I will run it after I post my Pictures -> NO Pic's - IT Never Happened <-

AIDA 3600, 3733, 3800, & 4000
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CB15 Saved from DDR4-3733 run :thup:
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Here is the run at 4000 :) You can see the run was recorded for the Memory at 3800. It can be done :thup: I just need to tighten the Memory now :)

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Update....
I'm stuck at 4.7 as 4.8 is too hot.... I have spent that last two days tring to tighten the memory. I still can't get the memory working correctly :( How high can I go on the SA & IO (1.375v-1.4v) to stablize the mem???
I got it to pass at 3840 CL 14-14-28 1T 1.75v but can only get 16-16-32 1T at 4000 with 1.825. Anything lower causes a mem error in windows, I even ran 1.975v. It's like the MB is fighting me...today I'll run this speed/timing and tomorrow that speed/timing

I hope to get some time tomorrow to post results so you guys can help me improve them :thup:
 
You shouldn't need to set more than ~1.5-1.6V at 4000 CL15/16. If it's not stable, then I would check other settings.
Remember that more things are affecting memory stability on X299. It should still scale about the same as on Z3xx chipset except for maybe CL12/13 at 4000+.

I have to test one Micron kit on X299 in next days, so maybe I will find something that will help you.
For now, I can only say to keep VCCSA at ~1.35V, VCCIO at ~1.20-1.25V, VCCIN at ~2V and try it first at all auto/XMP settings and 4000 + lower memory voltage like 1.35-1.45V. Once you make it benchable at these settings then start from main timings ... when you stabilize it at something like 16-16-16 or 15-15-15 then move to sub timings ... when you stabilize both then start to play with tighter main/sub-timings. However, I doubt you will see any significant difference in tightening the timings below CL16. This platform simply reacts a bit different. I would try to set it at 3600-3733 CL13 more than 4000+.

Back to VCCIN. Depends on the CPU, it will require a higher or lower voltage. Max for ambient temps will be 2.1V, but if you can't make stable 4000 at 2V, then it won't help you much setting VCCIN to 2.1V. Above 2.1V can kill the CPU. Usually, it's more like 2.2-2.3V+, but I remember some guys who killed their 7k series Skylake-X at 2.15V or something near on ambient water.
My 7900X could make 3600 at ~1.7V VCCIN but required ~1.9V at 4000. I could lower this voltage to 1.5V at 3200 memory clock. It's one of the voltages which are affecting CPU temp, so if you have problems with overheating CPU, then you may consider lower memory clock and higher CPU clock at lower VCCIN. It depends on the CPU, so you have to try that on your own.
 
You shouldn't need to set more than ~1.5-1.6V at 4000 CL15/16. If it's not stable, then I would check other settings.
Remember that more things are affecting memory stability on X299. It should still scale about the same as on Z3xx chipset except for maybe CL12/13 at 4000+./QUOTE]

If I set the Memory below ~ 1.675 I get a EE Error code. I'm still playing Hit and Miss :(
I've been able to get 14-14-28-1T @ 3600, 3733, and 3800 with 1.7v - 1.8v but not stable enough to run Memory intensive Benches. I have it stable enough to run quick 30 sec benches.
The memory does not like going below CL 14. Do I need to get a Certified Quad Channel Memory Kit???

I even ran this but it was not stable long term :(
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I've finally NAILED down a speed that is Bench stable :) I'm rolling 3733 (OCed to ~ 3795) @ 14-14-14-28 1T with only 1.550v. :thup:
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I have got GeekBench 3 and 4 to run completely, Before they would crash with-in 30 sec. I've also got x265 to run the 1080p Bench for a score of 78 FPS. I keep crashing (BSOD - Hardware Error) when I run the 4k Bench @ 22~27 seconds. I have dropped the Memory Voltage down to 1.510v.
I don't know why a multi of 48 (I hit over 80c before the computer freezes) is to high. I can run 47 with a BLCK of 101.5 (4.770) and still stay below 80c??
 
Just a thought M_M reducing memory allotment in Windows can help when pushing the memory speed and Windows keeps crashing on you. In win7 it's pretty easy go into the msconfig GUI and you'll find it under advanced IIRC. Been a while but I know it's there and drop from 32 GB to 4 or 6 GB
 
Just a thought M_M reducing memory allotment in Windows can help when pushing the memory speed and Windows keeps crashing on you. In win7 it's pretty easy go into the msconfig GUI and you'll find it under advanced IIRC. Been a while but I know it's there and drop from 32 GB to 4 or 6 GB

It's located in the same area that I have turned down Windows Visuals/Appearance. <- I was thinking of the Page File Size on the HDD :facepalm:
I tried yesterday to run PCMark 07 and PCMark Vantage. I got told that I needed to set the Desktop for best appearance and I could not run the desktop in basic mode.

For CPU Freq : what would be a possible on Water. Only 2 cores no HT - 5.1~5.3 and Voltage (Adaptive or Manual) 1.300~1.325v. This would also flow into Super Pi :)
^ On the Bot It's me and BatBoy Benching the 9820x. He is using a Asus TUF Ver 2 MB. Right now everything is 1st or 2nd. I will be re-reading our Black Book on the CPU tests :thup:
 
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I thought that I had Busted my system on Wednesday :( I was trying to find my HOT CORES with HT disabled so I could choose which 2~4 cores to run. I got Y-Cruncher installed and just clicked on run when the computer self-reboot. It then continued to fail when loading Windows 7 and 10 with a CPU Error light. I tried for ~2 hours to get it to work and decided that I needed to rest. I thought on it Thursday and Friday and realized that I had not gone though the proper Trouble Shooting Steps. I installed 1 memory stick and a different video card. The system booted into Windows 7 on the first try :) It's a easy fix and will get it back going again shortly :) I'm currently working my z370/8700k with my 3 sets of B-die. Going to work on Benching some 8800's and 9800's :thup:
 
Dragging this post back open :)

I decided to de-lid my i9-9820x (As my wife likes to say - I can't get a NEW part until I break the current one) to see if I could get it to go faster :rofl: I was stuck at 4.65-4.7 so I also went for a complete - Direct Die - setup. I now have 2 cores that are on fire :) and will not run over 4.3. I also have several cores that are cold, so I have clocked them up and the others down :( In the end I have not won :( I can only run at 4.6 on 7 cores and 4.2 on 3 cores now :cry: Should I continue to level the CPU Die to even out the contact?? I have the CPU block ( https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-velocity-nickel-plexi) connected to 4 x 360 (6 Delta's on 2 and 12 Standard on the other 2) rads at room temp (22c-24c)

:facepalm: Now I'm afraid to do my 9900kf :chair:

Here is the Delid with the Der8auer Direct Die cover on my x299 Dark and the first start on sanding the CPU:
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I'm getting a good contact with the TIM on the CPU block, with a section that is completely clear of TIM on the CPU (direct contact between the CPU & CPU block)
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Here are Temp pictures after running CB-15 -
The little bit of sanding I did dropped the temp by ~6c but I don't know how much I can sand??? I used 2000grit wet sand paper.
**5 Cores @ 4.2GHz & 5 Cores @ 4.6GHz
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**5 Cores @ 4.3GHz - 3 Cores @ 4.6GHz - & 2 Cores @ 4.7GHz
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I know - I know - I'm all setup to run it cold :comp: <- That's another day and another post :) :thup:

Thank You For Your Time
 
What is the black circle and green surrounding it? Is that from heat? if so I'm not surprised there are cores not cooperating.
 
I'm assuming that those odd colors are from the delid and sanding of the solder. Either you dont have enough pressure or the sanding job isn't even and leaving a gap somewhere. That's just my guess.
 
Yeah definitely looks like there's still a high spot. Easy to say "sand more" when it's not my $800 part on the line though, so I'll leave that decision up to you. You could always mount a piece of contact paper instead of TIM (and *not* run it) to see more clearly if it's a high spot vs poor clamp.
 
I have finally finished my work on the i9-9820x and can say that I messed it up :( There is a new BIOS out for the x299 boards that give new settings. There is Turbo 2.0 = all cores to XXX speed, XX temp, and X Voltage. The new Turbo 3.0 = per core to XXX speed, XX temp, and X Voltage.
When I started, I had a Max of 4.6GHz-4.7GHz with Turbo 2.0. I now have a max of ~ 4.2GHz :( With the new Turbo 3.0, I have 8 cores that will run @ 5.0GHz, 1 core that will run @ ~ 4.5GHz, and 1 core that drops down to 3.5GHz to stay under the thermal limit :(
I'm going to place it to the side to use in a future server build. If anyone on the Benching Team wishes to play around with it, just let me know :thup:
 
For me, the X299 Dark is acting a bit weird. Sometimes it can't see memory after I switch it to something else (usually slots on the left side of the CPU). Once it starts to work then it is 100% stable and no problems later. The motherboard seems solid but is not as easy to work with as ASRock X299 and it overclocks pretty much the same.
I keep it in my gaming PC with delidded/no IHS 7900X but for competitive benching, I would pick ASRock higher mobos or ASUS ROG because they act predictable and are clearly easier for overclocking. Not that I pick something that is easier but that it doesn't make me waste time on simple settings, especially when the CPU is on dice/LN2/SS.
 
Well I guess that's how the dice roll. Sorry it didn't work out but there's only so much you can do to polish a turd :(
 
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