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Henry Rollins II

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I recently bought a Celeron 700 + Aopen FCPGA adapter, to upgrade my BH6/300a system. (If you read my earlier posts, u know this already :) ).

OK, I didn´t reinstall Windows, but I think I can draw a few conslusions anyway. INSTABILITY is the keyword for this new Celeron 700. It boots at 875 Mhz, but most often hangs in games. 788 Mhz works OK, but still unstable. Somewhat unstable even at specified 700 Mhz.

At first I thought this was a memory problem, so I bought a 256 Mb branded DIMM(NCP PC133 cas2). This showed no improvement though over my old generic PC100 128 Mb. It will not boot at1050 Mhz even at max voltage(1,85). This new memory module showed improvement with my cely 300A though - it now boots at 508 Mhz, and is ROCK STABLE in 464 Mhz. This o/c allows PCI to run at 33 Mhz - maybe that has something to do with it?

I can´t tell any difference in speed or performance between these two cpu´s - the only thing is stability and the winner is the 300A. Replacing the hard drives, graphics card and memory made a great improvement though.

Stupid question - Abit FAQ´s tell that BH6 rev. 1.0x doen´t support coppermine CPU´s - but is the Celeron a coppermine?

Conclusion must be - don´t replace your 300A if u have a BH6 rev. 1.0x board. If you gonna buy a new system don´t even THINK Celeron. AMD´s Duron is the way to go. 2½ years ago Intel shocked the market by offering the Celeron 300A - overclockable at least by 50%. They seem to have learned from that "mistake" though. After all, overclocking ain´t worth **** if stability doesn´t come with it.

regards,
Henry.
 
Yes, the Celeron II is a CuMine....likely your source of problems. The C700 is a bugger to o/c anyways, and frankly, you'll run into grief trying with this chip, regardless of what board you run it on....

The C700 has a very high multiplier, which tends to make them very hard to overclock successfully. Can it be done, yes. But few C700's (IMHO, from what I've read/seen) have any measure of success.

Mr B

*update* Celerons aren't a bad chip, as you say...I got my C600 to run at 1053 (117FSB) with generic PC133. I've been seeing a ton of C600's here making the 1GHz mark lately. Perhaps you might want to try a different motherboard with yours before dismissing the entire Celeron line as no good. The Celeron (ok certain ones, 300A 566, 600 usually) has been an extremely sucessful chip for overclocking.
 
Since I do not like to hassle with selling used stuff, I ordered a new MB that was offered on a sale for $80, ASUS CUV4X. I want a second computer anyway, overclocked or not. Maybe it will turn out OK.....

regards,
Henry.
 
btw

Henry Rollins II (May 20, 2001 09:53 a.m.):
Mr B (May 20, 2001 09:37 a.m.):
Loud Fans Save CPUs

Silent water cooling saves CPUs better.... ;)

regards,
Henry.

That line is a play on words of the old biker adage;

Loud Pipes Save Lives

What I meant by that is, if your using the Delta 38cfm hair dryer, and it goes bad on ya, and you're sitting right there, you will know immediately by the sound change, and can hit the kill switch before you blow sky high....=)

Mr B
 
btw

Mr B (May 20, 2001 10:23 a.m.):
Henry Rollins II (May 20, 2001 09:53 a.m.):
Mr B (May 20, 2001 09:37 a.m.):
Loud Fans Save CPUs

Silent water cooling saves CPUs better.... ;)

regards,
Henry.

That line is a play on words of the old biker adage;

Loud Pipes Save Lives

What I meant by that is, if your using the Delta 38cfm hair dryer, and it goes bad on ya, and you're sitting right there, you will know immediately by the sound change, and can hit the kill switch before you blow sky high....=)

Mr B

My wife saved my CPU by noticing the wet spot on the desk...the TOP of the desk. She (rightly) concluded that this wasn't normal, shut the box off, and called me at work. Needless to say, she got a VERY nice thank you for this.

Anthony
 
I prefer having a loud fan instead of quiet water.....what happens if the quiet pump turns off? or if your connections at the waterblock start to leak? I'm not risking any of my computers to water
 
spazzed86 (May 20, 2001 12:22 p.m.):
I prefer having a loud fan instead of quiet water.....what happens if the quiet pump turns off? or if your connections at the waterblock start to leak? I'm not risking any of my computers to water

A long time ago I was moving my parents lawn, using an old crappy lawnmover. Suddenly one of the cutting blades broke, penetrated the lawnmover´s steel cover and got stuck in a tree approximately 10 meters avay. What if the same thing happend to one of your Delta "hair dryer" fans?

Overclockers.com latest news: Overclocking nerd goes _blind_.

;D

regards,
Henry.
 
Henry Rollins II (May 20, 2001 02:09 p.m.):
spazzed86 (May 20, 2001 12:22 p.m.):
I prefer having a loud fan instead of quiet water.....what happens if the quiet pump turns off? or if your connections at the waterblock start to leak? I'm not risking any of my computers to water

A long time ago I was moving my parents lawn, using an old crappy lawnmover. Suddenly one of the cutting blades broke, penetrated the lawnmover´s steel cover and got stuck in a tree approximately 10 meters avay. What if the same thing happend to one of your Delta "hair dryer" fans?

Overclockers.com latest news: Overclocking nerd goes _blind_.

;D

regards,
Henry.

While this is a valid point, I think the chances of a fan blade (plastic) penetrating through the side of the case, and then into a tree 10M away are slim....=)

Besides, who's got trees in their computer room??

Mr B
 
loud fan give me nightmare!!!!! i prefer water cooling right now!! it much more quite then the delta black label 38!!!! now i can have a nice sleep in the night!! :) :)
 
Mr. B quoted,

While this is a valid point, I think the chances of a fan blade (plastic) penetrating through the side of the case, and then into a tree 10M away are slim....=)

Besides, who's got trees in their computer room??

Mr B


ROFL!!!!!!!!!................ you're so funny Mr.B!! that was good 1. haha.


To others,

Ya want good and more effective cooling, get a peltier cooling setup, not water. With water, you are taking more chance on shortening your circuits.
 
lightning (May 20, 2001 02:41 p.m.):
loud fan give me nightmare!!!!! i prefer water cooling right now!! it much more quite then the delta black label 38!!!! now i can have a nice sleep in the night!! :) :)

I got a fool-proof and cheap way to sort that problem out......hit the power switch!!!!

regards,
Henry.

PS. Aint we getting a bit off-topic here? DS.
 
That happened to my lawn mower once too(the shaft completly snapped)......but it got burried into the ground, so no major harm was done. I also doubt that a fan would corrode to the point that it would just "snap" or "break" off, bieng made mostly of plastic. Even if it did corrode, wouldn't you think that by this point your MoBo and PSU etc. would of rotted out too?
 
spazzed86 (May 20, 2001 11:05 p.m.):
That happened to my lawn mower once too(the shaft completly snapped)......but it got burried into the ground, so no major harm was done. I also doubt that a fan would corrode to the point that it would just "snap" or "break" off, bieng made mostly of plastic. Even if it did corrode, wouldn't you think that by this point your MoBo and PSU etc. would of rotted out too?

Hey man, if you could imagine it, it could propably happen. You could drown as a result of using water cooling, if you make the mistake coupling your nose to the water hoses instead of the cpu block. But would it happen?

I could imagine though my girlfriend killing me since I spend more time with the computer than I really should.... ;D

regards,
Henry.
 
hey Henry....do me a favor and make a few more *'s in your word next time? More like F***ED or even F***** would be even more soothing to parents monitoring this site.
 
Henry Rollins II (May 20, 2001 11:34 p.m.):
spazzed86 (May 20, 2001 11:05 p.m.):
That happened to my lawn mower once too(the shaft completly snapped)......but it got burried into the ground, so no major harm was done. I also doubt that a fan would corrode to the point that it would just "snap" or "break" off, bieng made mostly of plastic. Even if it did corrode, wouldn't you think that by this point your MoBo and PSU etc. would of rotted out too?

Hey man, if you could imagine it, it could propably happen. You could drown as a result of using water cooling, if you make the mistake coupling your nose to the water hoses instead of the cpu block. But would it happen?

I could imagine though my girlfriend killing me since I spend more time with the computer than I really should.... ;D

regards,
Henry.

hahaha!!!! pretty much applies to most of us guys in DA HOUSE.
 
Shadow ÒÓ (May 21, 2001 07:09 a.m.):
hey Henry....do me a favor and make a few more *'s in your word next time? More like F***ED or even F***** would be even more soothing to parents monitoring this site.

Well, I am sorry about that. I´ll try to be the premiere starshooter.

regards,
Henry.
 
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