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Arkaine23

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Just wanted to drop a line with everyone here at OCforums to let you know I have teamed up with the folks developing Yoper Linux. Give the distro a try and let me know what you think so I can discuss your requests with the other developers. For those curious people out there, this is what Andreas (the main developer) has done to make Yoper the fastest "out-of-the-box" distribution:

0.) Performance patches from Con Kolivas, i686 2.6.7 kernel, reiserfs
1.) All original sources, minimal patches.
2.) Compiled with i686 against latest gcc
3.) Stripping
4.) Prelinking
5.) Latest gcc and glibc and other sources
6.) Keep everything only dependent to what it really needs not what the ./configure happens to find.
7.) Hdparm on install

All things you can do with other distros, but it requires knowledge and a lot of time. And if you reinstall them, the result is gone. Instead, if you do a quick Yoper install (minutes is all it takes), you can have a really fast and fully functional distribution running on your desktop in no time. There are different install options for either a minimal (base) or desktop (bloat) system.

Join us in the Linux of Tomorrow, available Today!

Here are some speed comparisons- http://www.yoper.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=953



I know we have a big following of gentoo linux here, so I'm asking you guys to especially compare and let me know what you think of Yoper.

PS. Yoper is an abbreviation for Your Operating System. We offer optimized binaries easily installable with apt-get or synaptic.
 
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How apropriate that you're in charge if the live CD. Congrats!
Looks like a good distro. I've got ext2resize installed and bittorrent going, and I should have some comments in a day or two. It'll have to be really good for me to switch, but I'm starting to get tired of Gentoo's long emerges.
 
Sounds cool. I haven't been using much Linux lately (the horror!) but hopefully soon I'll have a chance to give it a test run. I'll probably run it alongside of Debian or Gentoo, and my existing Suse install to see how it compares. If it can offer the speed of installation of Debian, along with the "cutting edge" software of Gentoo, then I may be easily converted. ;)
 
Yakbak said:
They don't do a comparison of Gentoo on their performance charts?

Possibly because Gentoo is faster. :)

No one wants to make themselves look bad.
 
Well, it looks like I have to try yet ANOTHER linux distro now! :temper:

;)

Fortunately, I think I can dig up a system to put it on. ;)

Congratulations, Arkaine! :clap:

Great to see you reaping some of the fruits of all your linux efforts, and I will hazard a guess that Yoper is good....;)

I should be able to make the time to find out for myself in the next week.
 
Interesting. I heard version two of Yoper was coming out but I thought it was just another same old same old distro.
 
Version 2 was just released.

I look at it as a compromise between gentoo and redhat. You get a fast and easy install, and the install options are for a very basic system (no GUI) or a very basic system with minimal KDE (as well as terminal server, mosix cluster, and a few others). It's all bleeding edge. Binaries supplied through apt-get/synaptic are optimized for i686, which is not as much optimization as gentoo, but the differences should be unnoticeable. emerge is in our apt-repository so if you want it you can try it, but you might run into issues running both emerge and apt at the same time that could hose your install.

These are both issues that I'm bringing to the table- comparison with gentoo and reconciling emerge and apt-get. Ideally we want to offer performance on par or better than gentoo and offer quick non-bloated install options and good tools and documentation to increase ease of use. The philosophy of the development team really has me hooked. :)

I actually get started next week and can't wait! 'Cuz you know I'll be supplying a DC/stress-tester package!
 
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How advanced and/or familiar should you be with *NIX before you try this distro?

I'll be putting a new(to me) box together soon and I wanted to use *NIX but haven't decided on which distro.
 
Way to go Arkaine! Does this mean you are no longer working on Knoppix / Overclockix? I might give it a try in a few weeks, if I can get my older P3 500 system up and running, right now Im doing the Mandrake 10 thing :)
 
Yoper installed. :)

Seems pretty quick- definitely faster than Fedora or Slackware.

I currently have a Gentoo box running an XP Pally 1600@1531mhz.
The Yoper box is also an XP1600; at defaults for install, it seemed approximately as fast.
Now at 1470mhz, it seems just a tad MORE responsive. ;)

I'll mess around a bit more, but my initial response is favorable. ;)

Install is pretty easy: the documentation tells you the steps you will go through to prepare you.
Most advanced step required during install: partitioning your hard drive with cfdisk.
 
Due to my messing about on my main rig, I have been having a few minor troubles of late- unable to listen to music cds, one web issue, and a few other things...

I had planned to move to Fedora Core 2, but as I was favorably impressed with Yoper on the test rig, I decided to give it a shot.

It's bloody quick. :D

Now if I can just figure out how to do a few things- get default browser set right, 5.1 sound running right and get my sensors all working correctly....
I may be running this way for a while. ;)
 
I think I'm gonna give this a try on my lappy.

Anyone know how it is for playing VCDs/WMA files/using Samba/playing Divx and Xvid media?

Thanks
 
chasingapple- I am not sure how well it will do with an ATI card, but Yoper was able to get acceleration working during install for my NVidia card- first distro I have used that did so successfully. :D

When sax2 runs at the end of the install you get the chance to configure a bunch of stuff manually or accept defaults- config the video card up maually and somewhere in there (easy to find) is an option for 3d accel.
Good luck and please post results. ;)

David- I haven't messed with any of that stuff yet....most everything else I have tried has been good though.

The only problem I have so far that I have no clue on is how to get Firefox seen as the default web browser when external apps call for one. :(
 
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chasingapple- I am not sure how well it will do with an ATI card, but Yoper was able to get acceleration working during install for my NVidia card- first distro I have used that did so successfully. :D

When sax2 runs at the end of the install you get the chance to configure a bunch of stuff manually or accept defaults- config the video card up maually and somewhere in there (easy to find) is an option for 3d accel.
Good luck and please post results. ;)

David- I haven't messed with any of that stuff yet....most everything else I have tried has been good though.

The only problem I have so far that I have no clue on is how to get Firefox seen as the default web browser when external apps call for one. :(

Hmm, well Mandrake 10 was the first ever Linux distro I have ever seen that actually set up a Radeon card with 3D right off the bat, NO DRIVER INSTALL!! hehe. My geforce's have all been a peice of cake to install with Linux, but these Radeons are something else (curse you ATI), but I am going to give it a shot anyway :)

Cheers.
 
I have now gotten Xine running in Yoper Linux- the one problem I had was that I needed to add the path /usr/local/bin to the /etc/ld.so.conf file.

I am not sure if this may have other ramifications, but Xine is working. ;)
Xmms is also working for music. :)
 
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