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First Build from Scratch LGA 775 Budget Machine

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bachmanmeister

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So recently a friend of mine gave me three dell vostro 420s that had various problems (broken power buttons, faulty PSUs, hdds etc.) and I took it upon myself to repair the machines, keep one for personal use, and sell the other 3. In the process I learned a lot about computer hardware in general and bios functions and such. The machine I kept i quickly upgraded the unit with some craig's gear and ebay auctions (SSD on pci enabled sata3, CPU modded Xenon, budget craig's radeon sapphire hd 5770, 6gb ram, etc.).

It was a lot of fun, and I was astonished by the increase in performance running windows 7 64 bit and I think I caught the bug. So i sold that machine, and decided to start from a better motherboard on the same socket set since it was so cost effective.

-Keep in mind my goal is to have a stable home machine that will run as my entertainment center, school machine, work machine, and moderate gamer. (I enjoy LoL, TF2, WoW, but may purchase the next halo if it comes out etc.)

So here is what I have purchased thus Far:
Sentey mid size full atx case with large side fan and led temp readouts.
Gigabyte GA-EP45-Ud3P Motherboard - I hear its about as good as it gets on this chipset, and it was 60 bucks brand new.
Intel Xeon 5470 3.3ghz Quad
I have a bid on 4x2gb OCZ 1066mhz ram.
I have a sapphire radeon hd5770 around so havent purchased a graphics card yet.
64gb samsung SSD on Sata 3 via PCI sata 3 adaptor w/ windows 7 (I know its small but I can keep my drives clear)
lying around I have an optical drive to get started, but I plan on upgrading to blue ray.

Storage and component questions.

I'm looking for cost effective solutions for a Hard Drive w/ a backup solution. (1TB should be more than enough)
looking for tried and true high quality Sound card and optical drive w/ blue ray that can be had for under 40$ each

PSU-GPU-CPU (OC)-Ram(OC)

I really want to push this processor as far as stable, my goal 4.2+, and I know 4.0 is achievable on a very basic OC setup.
Am I buying the Right RAM? I think i heard 1066 mhz is what you want my board has a data bus speed of 1600 and supports 1366mhz ram but which ram will clock up better.
Cost effective GPUs, should I buy another compatible to crossfire with my current one? Or is their an upgrade under 60$ that would outperform that.
PSU- What are some Great Tried and true PSUs that would allow me to push this machine to it's stable limit. Would probably want 2x pci ex and modular would be dope. There is a 100$ 800w modular gold corsair unit on craig's should I jump on it?

Really look forward to feedback as a first time poster. Can't wait to meet you guys and I will most likely keep this thread updated as I continue my project, I should be putting the build together beginning this up and coming weekend.
 
Welcome!

So you bought s775 stuff now?! That platform is pretty long in the tooth these days. Games will have glass ceilings with more powerful videos cards, etc.

Anyway...

1066 ram is what you want.

I wouldn't crossfire that gpu...it has 1gb of vram, right? You need AT LEAST 2gb these days for 10i0p and high settings.

Psu, see my link In Sig to psus. Get something around 650-750w.
 
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My gaming needs are pretty small, to be honest I just want a good multitasker and netflix and hulu machine. My wife and I both do full time school full time work so I rarely have time anyhow. I would most likely be happy with medium on anything released 2013 or later. So crossfiring for a 50$ upgrade would be less cost effective than buying a new 2gb card? what are some model #s of gpus that were good for their time so i can benchmark. Thanks for the input on the PSU, that thread is a great help.

Simple harddrive question, is it safe to partition your harddrive and run backup on one partition? Or is it likely that if I were to need the backup I wouldnt be able to access it.
 
If your hard drive fails, to have the backup on any of it's partitions will do you no good. You need a separate storage device to backup to or some cloud service.
 
Cool, I'll go ahead and buy some 500gb hdds then. Without Crossfire would a 650-750w psu be necessarry to run this older hardware? or should i be fine 500-600
 
You will be fine with a quality 500W PSU but not a cheap one whose wattage is exaggerated.
 
They will give you somewhat improved performance in boot up times but not much after you get into Windows. I would research that if I were you for verification. There is testing data available to help with that question.
 
Gigabyte GA-EP45-Ud3P Motherboard - I hear its about as good as it gets on this chipset, and it was 60 bucks brand new.
Intel Xeon 5470 3.3ghz Quad
How are you planning on running an LGA-771 processor in a LGA-775 motherboard?

There are two requirements that your motherboard must meet in order to be able to run LGA 771 Xeon processors:

1. You must have an LGA 775 motherboard with a compatible chipset.
2. Your bios must support an LGA 775 CPU that's similar to the Xeon you want to run.
Your motherboard has the supported P45 chipset. Supported Gigabyte boards: Looks like it's been tested to work. You'll also need the adapter sticker.

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Gigabyte GA-EP45-Ud3P Motherboard - I hear its about as good as it gets on this chipset, and it was 60 bucks brand new.
Intel Xeon 5470 3.3ghz Quad
How are you planning on running an LGA-771 processor in a LGA-775 motherboard?

There are two requirements that your motherboard must meet in order to be able to run LGA 771 Xeon processors:

1. You must have an LGA 775 motherboard with a compatible chipset.
2. Your bios must support an LGA 775 CPU that's similar to the Xeon you want to run.
Your motherboard has the supported P45 chipset. Supported Gigabyte boards: Looks like it's been tested to work. You'll also need the adapter sticker.
 
I bought the xenon processor with the sticker pre applied. Modify the socket by cutting the two tabs and bam.... Currently breadboarded and posting.

I went with a rosewill 700 watt modular psu because newegg had a good deal on it, hope it will put up with a strong overclock on the cpu and ram once it comes in the mail.

What are some of your favorite "legacy" gpus for budget builds?
 
You could put the latest PCIe graphics card in that rig. I'd go with as much GTX 900 series as you can afford.

I have an Asus Commando LGA-775 w/Q6600 @3.0GHz and it can run anything. I was thinking of getting an E5450 Xeon to spice it up a bit. Still might do it later after I'm finished with my latest legacy build: Super Micro dual socket LGA-1366 server/workstation.
 
Why would you go with a "legacy" gpu? The latest GPUs will work just fine in your older motherboard. All any GPU needs is a PCI-e slot and maybe a six or eight pin direct power lead from the PSU.
 
My gaming needs arent that intensive for the moment, I need a good school machine and home entertainment system as opposed to a gamer, thus the higher processing power from the budget chipset.

The rosewill psu is a 700 watt modular, rated 70+ efficient which i figure is fine since I wont be X-firing any radeon 290s.

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I do want our 1080p blue ray movies to run nicely though!
 
you could go with a lower end 9 series Maxwell card, or even a 750 which is Maxwell Arc and requires no power from the psu (bus powered) it would run cooler use less power, the 750 would out right stab 5770 radeon in the back, a 750 TI would stab it in the back throw it down the stairs run after it and laugh at it. this is according to

http://www.hwcompare.com/17197/geforce-gtx-750-vs-radeon-hd-5770/
http://www.hwcompare.com/17382/geforce-gtx-750-ti-vs-radeon-hd-5770/

if you can i would go for a decent SSD maybe 2 and raid them use that as your boot drive and use a second drive (could even be a spinner) for storage and or back ups ideally you can image the boot drive and unplug the spare just some idears
 
If you're going budget with power, I would SERIOUSLY recommend these guys.

http://gpushack.com/collections/all-gpus-for-sale/products/msi-r7950-twin-frozr


GPU shack sells refurb units with a TWO year swap (same or better, immediate) plan. Well reviewed. This particular one has the awesome hynix memory set, and is a great card, despite its age. For the money, can't go wrong!


Get a GTX 960 and call it a day.


Decent card, but a 220$ underwhelming gpu slapped on a relatively budget miser system (771 xeon costs 40$, mobo 50-75$, ram 60$, psu 50$, HDD 50$...). I'd think a 750ti would be more prudent for this system.
 
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