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intense

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Hi sorry for the bad grammar english is not my first. Im upgrading my 6 year old computer p4 to a i7 build and i need some advice and guidance. So far i have

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119194

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188055

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133270&Tpk=gtx 260

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827249051

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103055

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015

Wondering if this will be a good build. and does anyone know the diffrence between G.skill Ripjaws Series and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193 They list that they have the same spec but the non ripjaw cost 3 doller more per set im ordering 2 sets for 8 gigs Thanks. Ty for reviewing my build and i would love some suggestions
 

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intense

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Hey thanks for the advice The video card and psu is from my old computer would it really help if i buy the psu you linked? and what does 1 rail mean sorry im kinda new to this computer stuff does lesser timing mean its going to run faster cause i alrdy order the ripjaws ones but can prob return to get the other ones what would be the diff between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193 more feedback is welcomed what big of a diffrence would it make to get the memory you suggested i ordered 2 sets and will try to run it at 1600
 

Rainbow Six

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I honestly don't see a difference between the two RAM. The timings are exactly the same.

This RAM has better timings than both of the above.
 

Joeteck

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Corsair makes a great power supply.. Made be seasonic just so you know...

And for your first build... Nice job in picking out your parts...!
 

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:welcome:

Here's the best answer you'll find anywhere to your question about single vs double rail PSU's. Single or multi rail doesn't really make a difference:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=548862

@nzaneb: If you know something I don't, please correct me. Jonnyguru is a good source tho, and his explanation makes good sense. I originally said single rail also, but didn't realize how minor the differences are.
 
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intense

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Thanks guys i appreciate all the feedback will the mushkin voltage be to high? 1.85V - 1.95V someone told me not to pas 1.65 for a i7 860 was that a lie?
I will prob stick to my psu untill it goes bad then get the one you guys suggested cause i already have it =[.
 

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Looks good. Like Nzaneb said, get lower timing on the ram

:welcome:

Here's the best answer you'll find anywhere to your question about single vs double rail PSU's. Single or multi rail doesn't really make a difference:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=548862

@nzaneb: If you know something I don't, please correct me. Jonnyguru is a good source tho, and his explanation makes good sense. I originally said single rail also, but didn't realize how minor the differences are.
This is correct... For 99% of PC's single vs dual as far as one being better than the other was the truth YEARS ago that still has legs :(... Here is another article supporting that thought: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showpost.php?p=1348586&postcount=9

Only Very Unusual Systems Will Truly Benefit from Using a Single-Rail PSU.
 
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Joeteck

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:welcome:

Here's the best answer you'll find anywhere to your question about single vs double rail PSU's. Single or multi rail doesn't really make a difference:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=548862

@nzaneb: If you know something I don't, please correct me. Jonnyguru is a good source tho, and his explanation makes good sense. I originally said single rail also, but didn't realize how minor the differences are.


+ 1 Awesome read!

JonnyGuru is the man! Its a shame he does not do this any longer.
 
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intense

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Any more suggestion on ram? im thinking about getting the mushkin one but what does higher voltage mean? someone said i cant pass 1.65 for a i7 860 i plan to overclock the cpu and run ram at 1600 thanks
 

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You probably won't need to raise the RAM's voltage above 1.65V unless you are planning to overclock to 5ghz or something. So you can just leave it at 1.65V
 

jgv115

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I'm not expert but between 1333 and 1600 there is quite a difference in memory sensitive programs. From 1600 to 2000 there is not much of a difference. A tightened 1600mhz ram beats a loosened 2000mhz RAM.

I doubt you'll notice a difference in real life performance between those 2 but just get that 1600mhz kit.
 

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a question to all of you regarding his proposed setup: is the cpu cooler he chose (cooler master v8) a good choice? i only bring this up because i had the exact same cooler in mind and i've had other people saying "no, no...buy zalman or thermaltake b/c that one is terrible."
 
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i was going for the dark knight but newegg had the v8 new for 40$ so i just chose that but yeah is the v8 a good choice for mild overclocking
 

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There are better for the money, thats for sure. But this will be fine for sub 4Ghz overclocking.
 

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i was going for the dark knight but newegg had the v8 new for 40$ so i just chose that but yeah is the v8 a good choice for mild overclocking

I've never overclocked and I7 before, so if any of this info is wrong, please someone correct me, but I don't think its any different than a core 2...

From what I've read the Core i7's overclock very well... My choice of cooling would have been the AF7P Rev 2, because I have rev 1 for the 775 and have my e6850 to 3.7Ghz and it works great. Plus its 33 bucks.

The i7 860 has a 21 Multiplier. 133 x 21 = 2793 (2.8Ghz)

Moving this up to 167 will give you 3507Mhz. and may not need to change your voltages to get there. Your RAM divider will need to change, to reflect your current RAM speed or less.

But you should have no trouble hitting 3.5Ghz..

172 will get you 3.612Ghz
181 will get you 3.801Ghz
191 will get you 4.011Ghz
196 will get you 4.116Ghz
200 will get you 4.200Ghz