Fluid change advice Zalman reseratot XT

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 18, 2012

This will also take some pressure off the pump, being a high flow block right?

m0r7if3r · Jan 18, 2012

it should increase the flow in your loop, yes.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 18, 2012

Cool. Well I guess I'll splash out the extra cash so

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 18, 2012

Ok Ordered the High flow EK nickel plexi block then.

Will these fittings do the job, as they have already been shipped as I was going to use them on the other block I was originally planning on getting?

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/8mm-Fitting-G14-With-O-Ring-Black-Nickel_19075.html

It's 5/16 hose that's going on them btw.

Also I have arctic silver mx-4 for the block but was reading up on Indigo xtreme or liquid ultra. Are they worth it over the mx-4?

ziggo0 · Jan 18, 2012

DigitalMonkey said:
Give this item a shot, if you still in to those large standalone coolers.

Sweet jesus....if I didn't LAN Id totally get one of those.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 19, 2012

Right, I changed the fluid today.Drained it a few times and ran hot water through the loop for a while.
Didn't bother using that sysclean stuff I got as wasn't happy about running an acid through it so kept flushing with very hot water.
There wasn't any real gunk at all that came out of it, especially considering the fluid had been in for 3 years.
Man is that Feser 1 messy stuff though..

I checked the inside of the reservoir and it looked fine. The aluminum looked like new.
I thought I saw some rusty coloured fluid in the bottom of the res while i was flushing it but it never came out of the pipe so I think it might have been the lighting in the room and the red fluid as I looked through the filler cap.

Filled with distilled water, biocide, anti-corrosive and a silver coil.
Also shortened the tubes by a couple of feet

Temps have dropped by about 10 degrees C, and the flow now is back to max.

I have ordered the EK highflow nickel plexi and have decided to build a new loop, as the Aluminum Rads are worrying me and the thought of them degrading due to copper in the loop has me concerned. Also copper would be better cooling.

The loop needs to be external as I have the pc in a tight space that doesn't get much airflow.
I was thinking of something like this as a starting point..
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/P...nch-with-4x-Nano-G-12-1500rpm-Fans_18176.html

I want it to be as silent as possible so maybe 180 or 200mm fans?

Could anyone here help me spec out a loop as I have never built one from scratch before?

My budget is around 400 euros and as I said I want to keep it all external if possible.

I also would like to use either of these 2 site as I am in Ireland so shipping from England isn't too bad..
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/

http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/

I need it to cool a [email protected], NB and EVGA GTX280 HC16. I also want it to have enough cooling power to cool a EVGA GTX580 Classified Hydrocopper 3072mb as I was thinking about adding one to my setup in a few months, or the equivalent 6 or 7 series if they are out by then, and keep my gtx280 as a PhysX card.

Do you guys reckon that 400 Euros should get me setup?

I'm hoping for something like this..

If anyone is willing to help me out I'd be very grateful.

thanks

m0r7if3r · Jan 19, 2012

Have you read the sticky? It's a pretty great place to start

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 19, 2012

I did. I wanted to get some opinions for you guys to see which gear I should get though.

Conumdrum · Jan 19, 2012

Well that's what the sticky is for. You can kinda figure it out since you have made a lot of good changes.

Build a list with links to each part and we'll vet it for you.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 19, 2012

Cool. Thanks mate

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 20, 2012

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...ight-blue-including-G1-4-lighting-module.html

Slot cover fan and pump power x 2..
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...slot-cover-4Pin-Molex---3x-3Pin-fan-plug.html

Fan extender cables x 2..
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...Pin-Molex-to-4x-3Pin-Molex-60cm----black.html

I also wanted some bulkhead high flow quick connectors for rad case and pc case for ease of movement. but couldn't find what I was looking for so any suggestions are welcomed.

I also want to set it up so if the pump stops the pc will turn off, also it would be good to have it set so that if the pc temps rise the pump and all 8 fans on the rad will increase in speed. how would I do that?

Do yo think that this should cool my setup ok? It would want to do a much better job than the Zalman for the money it will cost anyway

m0r7if3r · Jan 20, 2012

Automatic fan control can be done with the Aquero XT, but it'll cost a pretty penny. You can set temp shutoff in your mobo settings, which will handle if the pump shuts off, but MTBF on the laing pumps is well over 10000 hrs (wanna say 20-40000). You should probably go with a DDC instead of a d5, especially at that pricing and if you want to put an aftermarket top on it anyways.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 20, 2012

How about this then??
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...2V-DDC-1RT-Plus-with-2xG1-4-outer-thread.html

with this top..
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p2620_XSPC-Laing-DDC-Plexi-cover.html

I thought as the D5 had twice the flow rate it would be a better choice but was reading that this has equal to , or better head pressure which seems to matter.
I think it's quieter too?

Any suggestions on the rest of the items?

Conumdrum · Jan 20, 2012

Flow rate goes out the window when watercooling. The average flow rate for a good WC loop is from 1-2 Gallons Per Minute (GPM) that's all.

So forget flow rate. Head pressure is most important.

The 355 is quieter than the D5. The 35x is loud if not speed controlled.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 20, 2012

The pump i linked to there, the DDC-1RT is that the 35x you mean?
What would you recommend as the quietest that will do the job?

Do you think the rest of the stuff I have chosen will do the job I want?

Also I found this..
http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p6747_Alphacool-Heatmaster.html

Will this be able to control all 8 fans on 1 channel as the 8 of them only draw 1 amp combined and the pump on the other? And will this gadget enable me to get the pump and fans to increase in speed as temps rise via the motherboard readings?
Or would it be better to have the pump on full power all the time and have the 8 fans on one control knob to turn them up when gaming etc.?

Sorry for all the questions

Conumdrum · Jan 20, 2012

First. Stop getting all involved with fan control, pump control, all sorts of complicated stuff.

Your new at this. The added complexity increases the odds of you ruining something by a factor of BUTTLOADS. Ever had water pour on a PSU?

Stick to the basics now. Build the PC and the WC loop, play with magic uneeded stuff later. Ohh did I mention few use all that fancy stuff? FEW, to a point it's hardly mentioned on this forum.

From your post,
"The pump i linked to there, the DDC-1RT is that the 35x you mean?"

No clue. I can't find any stuff on that link to say it's the 35x. So YOU need to find out. Most of us are USA, so even with translate, we are kinda lost. Emial them......

In fact, just buy a DDC 355 and call it a day. You don't need the 35x.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 21, 2012

I wanted to be able to control the fans so they are not running full belt all the time and I wanted to have some way of the pump shutting the pc down in the event of pump failure.
Maybe a flowmeter attached to mobo?
Didn't want to go out with the pc on and come back later to find it's fried cause water stopped flowing.

Conumdrum · Jan 21, 2012

Your pump will last forever. You can turn a knob, you do have fingers? Turn it down at low loads like web browsing. Turn it up when needed. I'm sure you monitor your system temps to see what is a safe number. I used to till I got it right. when I am at my needs for more heat, I just do it. I do have the ability to monitor temps, knw what situations I might need more RPM. It's a learn and do it thing. Many MOST of us have NO auto control on fans. We can do it all by ourselves and no need to spend $300++. So don't worry so much dude. Geat a good fan controller that can handle all your fans and it has... 'Knobs'. Scarey thing.........

I have a single loop. I have my bios set to 75C on my CPU for shutdown. I never reach 60C, so I'm okay.

Don't overdo it dude.

Supertrucker · Jan 21, 2012

Its not as big a deal as you might think to have your pump die, it doesnt mean instant cpu death. ive booted my computer while tinkering and forgot to plug in the pump, i make it into windows, the cpu throttles and then the system shuts down, as i have my bios set to shut down when the cpu hits 85c.

But i make it all the way into windows like that, the computer will run for 1-2 minutes even with no pump just because it takes time to heat up that copper block strapped to your cpu.

MarcusarilliuS · Jan 21, 2012

Ok, thanks lads.

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