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Dirk

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I'm currently looking into a new mobo and had decided on the ASUS A7M266 until I read that Taiwan was going to stop production on the DDR boards. The CPU I am going to get is the T-Bird 1.33G. Any thoughts as to the future of DDR or what, if any, direction to go?
 
Actually, if you want a motherboard that only supports DDR, you can go the FIC route. I don't remember the model number, but it was an AMD761 based board. The A7M266 is also an AMD761 based board, but it is not being produced anymore. In my opinion, the A7M rates as one of the fastest and most stable DDR boards - the FIC has been rated darn well too. You can't find the A7M266 in stores anymore, but you can find one on E-Bay every now and then.
 
Daniel R (May 24, 2001 10:26 p.m.):
Actually, if you want a motherboard that only supports DDR, you can go the FIC route. I don't remember the model number, but it was an AMD761 based board. The A7M266 is also an AMD761 based board, but it is not being produced anymore. In my opinion, the A7M rates as one of the fastest and most stable DDR boards - the FIC has been rated darn well too. You can't find the A7M266 in stores anymore, but you can find one on E-Bay every now and then.
Thanks for the info. Is DDR overall still here to stay? From what I gather, all the Taiwnese companies are stopping production on DDR motherboards and if that is the case what is going to happen with the T-Bird CPU's?
 
pauldogg (May 24, 2001 11:06 p.m.):
the epox ep-8k7a+ is sposed too be a hell of a board
Thanks!, I'll check into that board.
 
dirk (May 24, 2001 07:07 p.m.):
I'm currently looking into a new mobo and had decided on the ASUS A7M266 until I read that Taiwan was going to stop production on the DDR boards. The CPU I am going to get is the T-Bird 1.33G. Any thoughts as to the future of DDR or what, if any, direction to go?

Talking about the future of DDR, I read a snipit from an AMD worker over at [H]ard OCP saying that they are working on the DDR2 specs. and I'm sure Intel is interested in DDR2 as well, so they can put their Wily on a comperable bus to RDRam so they won't have to mess with Wily too much and leave Rambust in the dust, of course that's all speculation, we might see the real benifits or DDR when Palimino comes out this fall, then again we might not....
 
here's the snippet from [H]ard OCP:

Here is an interesting statement from an AMD applications engineer that will remain nameless. This came to us second hand and was not supplied directly to us so I don't want to get the guy in trouble. First the questions posed:

Will PowerNow! be used for desktops, if so why? Will there be any new faster bus speeds so the Athlon/Duron can better take advantage of DDR Ram?

The specs for the desktop version of the Athlon 4 have not been finalized at this time, therefore I cannot answer this question. Support of PowerNow! will probably be determined by the industry and our partners. If there is a demand for this functionality, then it will probably be included. While I cannot think of very many reasons why this would be needed in a desktop environment, there may still be reasons for it. My guess is that throttling the clock based on CPU usage could make your processor last longer. After all, there is no reason to pump the CPU if it is not really being used.

As for faster bus speeds, the Athlon bus can scale up beyond the 266 that it is currently running at, however we would be back in the same boat with the memory bottleneck. Therefore, memory developers along with chipset companies are starting to work on DDR 2. The specs are still early in the stages of development so it is difficult to say what speeds they are talking about, but rest assured it is being worked on.

I can think of some HUGE *** REASONS that we will need it in the desktop segment if it works like I think it will. Of course, none of those reasons have anything to do with OCing the Palomino, ;)

pretty interesting if you ask me, as to the reliability issue as of late with AMD based systems (the topic of several articles on the OC homepage), I think NVidia might be gearing up to silence critics (FYI- the CEO of NVidia is a former employee of NVidia, check it out at their website, it's listed with his bio/background info). This waiting stuff sucks... I'd kill to know what's going on in those R&D labs right now!
 
Well I personally think the future for DDR looks rather glum at the moment, as from the tests that I am aware of suggest that the very slight performance increase of DDR over traditional SDRAM does not warrent the additional price at this time for most people. The performance of SDRAM is always improving which I believe will close the gap even further in the future. DDR will either have to reduce in price or increase its performance in the future to survive
 
sorry about the end of that last post, the CEO of NVidia is a former AMD employee, now that SNAP (Nvidia-AMD Partnership) makes more sense huh? Again sorry bout the last post, I work over-night, gotta go catch some winks...
 
That's some good information to have and as for this waiting thing, it definitely does suck.
 
got a few winks, here is the schpeil about the Pres./CEO of NVidia (directly from their about company-Investor Relations-Directors Page)

Jen-Hsun Huang
Co-founder, President and CEO
Jen-Hsun Huang co-founded the Company in April 1993 and has served as President, Chief Executive Officer and a member of the Board of Directors of the Company since its inception. From 1985 to 1993, Mr. Huang was employed at LSI Logic Corporation, a computer chip manufacturer, where he held a variety of positions, most recently as Director of Coreware, the business unit responsible for LSI's "system-on-a-chip" strategy. From 1983 to 1985, Mr. Huang was a microprocessor designer for Advanced Micro Devices, a semiconductor company. Mr. Huang holds a B.S.E.E. degree from Oregon State University and an M.S.E.E. degree from Stanford University

I recently did a paper on NVidia and I found this very interesting, just thought some of you might like to know...
 
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