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Hi everyone,
Because the last time I build a system, the RAM wasn't able to run at its full speed, this time I'm really trying to do research. To check my findings, I'd like to see what you guys think.
I'm coming from (current):
CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950x
Motherboard: MSI X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB - DDR4-3200 CL14 - (F4-3200C14D-32GTZR, CL14-14-14-34 1.35V) - 32GB (2 x 16GB)
+ Water cooler (360) and Be Quiet! 850W PSU.
My new system will be used in dual boot mode. Two Windows installations. One fully dedicated to work (heavy video editing), the other for a more personal use (inlcuding gaming).
New specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3950x (might become a Ryzen AMD Threadripper 3960x
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME (rev. 1.1)
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB - DDR4-3600 CL16 - (F4-3600C16D-32GTZR, CL16-16-16-36 1.35V) - 32GB (2 x 16GB)
+ Water cooler (360) and (most likely) Be Quiet! 1500W PSU.
I was never able to get the RAM in my current system above 2133 MHz without booting problems. The memory should've been able to reach 3200, the CPU was able to handle up to 2667, the motherboard was able to handle up to 3600.
Since my recent research, I got to learn about B-Die being of importance while trying to overclock your RAM. Now the thing is: I'm not an overclocker. I'm an ex-IT guy, so I should've been able to get things to work with the information that was available at the time. For some reason it didn't. So after a week of trying by the end of 2017 I just let it rest at 2133 MHz.
The funny part is: My current RAM is being labled as B-Die verified. Looking online, I don't seem the be the only one having issues with that specific kit. That's why I still went with the same line of RAM for my newer system. Hoping you guys could shed a light on it and let me know if this is a smart move.
By now you should expect that newer lines of motherboards should be able to cope with situations like this. Which is why I'm aiming for a monster motherboard. Not just that, also because of the many features, like 3x M2 slots, a little space beneath the top PCIe 4.0 port, Wi-Fi, many USB ports etc.
Some things of importance on this new system:
1. The most important thing for me is that every component works together in the best possible way. Not just gathering some hardware and put them together because supposedly it gives you really good results. Especially software like Adobe (video editing) benefits from hardware being aligned in the best possible way and to adjust timings.
2. The motherboard is pretty much not negotiable. I heard MSI has a better BIOS, but this newer Gigabyte has better features. The CPU, for now, is aimed at the AMD Ryzen 3950x, but chances are I might change my mind and go for an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960x. However, with a new 5000 series being announced in two weeks, I'm very curious about a release date. The idea is to buy all (or most) components by the end of November (hoping Black Friday will do any good). I still have an AORUS 1080 ti graphics card in my current system, so I'm aware I will have to switch that card into my new system for a while as I'm not expecting an overclocked ASUS RTX 3080 or AORUS XTREME anytime soon.
Which leaves it basically up to the RAM. From looking around at forums, websites and YouTube, comparing things (mostly) to the AMD Ryzen 3950x, I've learned a couple of things:
a. 3600 CL16 seems to be the best option
b. Tweaking the timings down to 3600 CL14 seems to be the best and most affordable option (I want to run 3600 in CL14)
c. The motherboard has only 4 DIMM slots. As I want to be able to (eventually) run at least 64GB (4k editing), I need to work with 16GB RAM sticks.
d. I need to have B-Die verified memory to at least have a chance to be able to tweak the timings effectively
Does anyone have an idea/advice on what memory to get? If my own G.Skill set should be able to work? Even though the 3950x (and 3960x) recommends to work with RAM up to 3200 MHz?
Thanks!
Because the last time I build a system, the RAM wasn't able to run at its full speed, this time I'm really trying to do research. To check my findings, I'd like to see what you guys think.
I'm coming from (current):
CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950x
Motherboard: MSI X399 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB - DDR4-3200 CL14 - (F4-3200C14D-32GTZR, CL14-14-14-34 1.35V) - 32GB (2 x 16GB)
+ Water cooler (360) and Be Quiet! 850W PSU.
My new system will be used in dual boot mode. Two Windows installations. One fully dedicated to work (heavy video editing), the other for a more personal use (inlcuding gaming).
New specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3950x (might become a Ryzen AMD Threadripper 3960x
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME (rev. 1.1)
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB - DDR4-3600 CL16 - (F4-3600C16D-32GTZR, CL16-16-16-36 1.35V) - 32GB (2 x 16GB)
+ Water cooler (360) and (most likely) Be Quiet! 1500W PSU.
I was never able to get the RAM in my current system above 2133 MHz without booting problems. The memory should've been able to reach 3200, the CPU was able to handle up to 2667, the motherboard was able to handle up to 3600.
Since my recent research, I got to learn about B-Die being of importance while trying to overclock your RAM. Now the thing is: I'm not an overclocker. I'm an ex-IT guy, so I should've been able to get things to work with the information that was available at the time. For some reason it didn't. So after a week of trying by the end of 2017 I just let it rest at 2133 MHz.
The funny part is: My current RAM is being labled as B-Die verified. Looking online, I don't seem the be the only one having issues with that specific kit. That's why I still went with the same line of RAM for my newer system. Hoping you guys could shed a light on it and let me know if this is a smart move.
By now you should expect that newer lines of motherboards should be able to cope with situations like this. Which is why I'm aiming for a monster motherboard. Not just that, also because of the many features, like 3x M2 slots, a little space beneath the top PCIe 4.0 port, Wi-Fi, many USB ports etc.
Some things of importance on this new system:
1. The most important thing for me is that every component works together in the best possible way. Not just gathering some hardware and put them together because supposedly it gives you really good results. Especially software like Adobe (video editing) benefits from hardware being aligned in the best possible way and to adjust timings.
2. The motherboard is pretty much not negotiable. I heard MSI has a better BIOS, but this newer Gigabyte has better features. The CPU, for now, is aimed at the AMD Ryzen 3950x, but chances are I might change my mind and go for an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960x. However, with a new 5000 series being announced in two weeks, I'm very curious about a release date. The idea is to buy all (or most) components by the end of November (hoping Black Friday will do any good). I still have an AORUS 1080 ti graphics card in my current system, so I'm aware I will have to switch that card into my new system for a while as I'm not expecting an overclocked ASUS RTX 3080 or AORUS XTREME anytime soon.
Which leaves it basically up to the RAM. From looking around at forums, websites and YouTube, comparing things (mostly) to the AMD Ryzen 3950x, I've learned a couple of things:
a. 3600 CL16 seems to be the best option
b. Tweaking the timings down to 3600 CL14 seems to be the best and most affordable option (I want to run 3600 in CL14)
c. The motherboard has only 4 DIMM slots. As I want to be able to (eventually) run at least 64GB (4k editing), I need to work with 16GB RAM sticks.
d. I need to have B-Die verified memory to at least have a chance to be able to tweak the timings effectively
Does anyone have an idea/advice on what memory to get? If my own G.Skill set should be able to work? Even though the 3950x (and 3960x) recommends to work with RAM up to 3200 MHz?
Thanks!