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G4 mx440 or Ti 200?

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SaT985

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I've heard about a hardware an software mod for them to turn em into quadro's. Which would be better for using 3ds max 4 with? Either card i'd probably for for a gainward because of the better ramchips they ship with. also saw a tempting G2 Ti 500 with vivo card on newegg.


Gainward/Cardexpert GeForce 4 MX440 (NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 GPU), PowerPack GODEN SAMPLE( OVER-CLOCKING), 4ns, 64MB DDR. TV-Out. Retail Box.


Gainward/Cardexpert GeForce 2 TITANIUM Ti/500XP, 4ns 64MB DDR, VIVO, Golden Sample Plus. Retail

Gainward/Cardexpert GeForce 3 Ti200 64MB (NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 GPU), Power Pack Golden Sample, 4ns 64MB DDR. TV-Out. Retail Box.


or maybe one of these for fun

Gainward/Cardexpet GeForce 3 Ti200 128MB (NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 GPU), Power Pack Golden Sample, 4ns 128MB DDR.Retail Box.



max isn't a primary concern, would also need to be good for games so that would probably rule out physicaly modding the card. Would using the elsa drivers hinder performance in games?
 

funnyperson1

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well if there is a Mod for turning the Ti200 into a Quadro then DEFINATELY get it.....the MX440 is only a little bit faster than a Geforce2 Ti and would come home crying for its mommy if it faced a Geforce2 Ultra or Radeon7500 let alone a full fledged Geforce3......for games the Ti200 is almost twice as fast though i havent seen a quadro mod for it, and if you do a hardware quadro mod gaming will stay the same...
 

RainMaQer

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funnyperson1 said:
well if there is a Mod for turning the Ti200 into a Quadro then DEFINATELY get it.....the MX440 is only a little bit faster than a Geforce2 Ti and would come home crying for its mommy if it faced a Geforce2 Ultra or Radeon7500 let alone a full fledged Geforce3......for games the Ti200 is almost twice as fast though i havent seen a quadro mod for it, and if you do a hardware quadro mod gaming will stay the same...

I'm with ya on that one... the GF4MX is just a hopped up GF2... in either case (games or apps) the GF3 is going to outperform the GF4. There isn't really an improvment with a GF3 w/128 MB VS. one with 64 MB. That would just be for bragging rights... but then again I'm only making that statement from a gamers perspective... might be an improvement for 3d apps. I think there's a mod for the GF3 to Quadro... not sure on that though.

Nevertheless... the GF3 would be your best bet :D
 

GoldenTiger

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On a Quadro card, extra RAM would mean a lot. This goes the same for a GF3 turned into a Quadro :). Definitely go for the Ti200, preferably the 128mb model.
 

PatrickEHenry

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you said you like to play games as well. I have a gf3 ti 200 and runs all my games at respectable frame rates.

One, I overclocked it to ti 500 levels with only a blow hole and some ramsinks.

Two, The gf3 is direct x 8 compliant with pixel and vertex shaders, the gf4 mx is not.

gf3 all the way dude!
 

quegyboe

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the MX440 is only a little bit faster than a Geforce2 Ti and would come home crying for its mommy if it faced a Geforce2 Ultra or Radeon7500 let alone a full fledged Geforce3
Warning warning, un-educated post detected! The GeForce4 MX 440 will BEAT the Radeon 7500 for sure (I had a 7500 64MB for a couple of days and, on my system, it scored 1000 3DMarks less than my MX 440 does). As for the Ti200, my friend has a system very simular to mine (XP 1800+, 512MB ram) with a GeForce3 Ti200 64MB. He scores 500 3DMarks less than I do. Alot of people under estimate the GF4 MX. For the price, there isn't anything better! On the other hand, the GF3 does have DX 8 compliant hardware, so I would still recommend the GF3 TI200...but don't doubt the power of the GF4 MX either!
 

Anaxagoras1986

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funnyperson1 said:
Geforce2 Ti and would come home crying
Hehehehehe....sometimes it cryies home from the GF2 Ti! Well I have mine clocked higher than a GF2 Ultra anyway so it can sometimes be screwed. lol

And I dont underestimate the thing. It isnt bad...but it isnt GOOD. I think a Ti200 woiuld rip it a new one in just about any benchy. Maybe your system wasnt fully optimized??

:)
 
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Anaxagoras1986

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2001 se? I have been having alot of probs with it ever since I went to WIN XP Pro. Before that I was able to muster 5743 with my AXP at stock. Now I am usually in the 5480 range when I am about maxed out (chip running at about 147*11.5=1691Mhz). I know that is an extremely lame overclock on the CPU - I have about the worst memory you can imagine. Wish I spent the extra moneyto get PC2700 or even decent PC2100.
BTW, my GF2 is actually clocked 285/460 now. I cant get much higher than that, and it usually rus the best 270-275/450-460.

Why you ask, James, are you beating me with your MX440? I wouldnt doubt it. :)
 
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james.miller

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only just lol. guess my gf4 440mx is indeed faster than any gf2 then :p . The last score i got was 64xx with an axp1800+ @1.64ghz, the card was clocked @ 330/480 core/ram

what really bites though, is that ive seen people getting 8000+ with 1.2ghz celly's and ati r8500's. unbelievable!
 

quegyboe

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I think my CPU is bottlenecking my MX 440. I raised my core and memory from 270/400 to 300/440 and there was about 100 3DMarks of difference. I'm gonna OC my CPU and try again...

*edit* My current 3DMark score is 6847
 

Overclocker550

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you cant hardware mod any geforce past a g3 ti500. software mods do nothing but make windows think its a quadro, but no performance gains. I could call a geforce2mx an ultra but thatll do nuttin! Get the 128mb geforce3, and OC, OC, OC!
 

Anaxagoras1986

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james.miller said:
only just lol. guess my gf4 440mx is indeed faster than any gf2 then :p . The last score i got was 64xx with an axp1800+ @1.64ghz, the card was clocked @ 330/480 core/ram

what really bites though, is that ive seen people getting 8000+ with 1.2ghz celly's and ati r8500's. unbelievable!

What are you getting with your celery?
 

Anaxagoras1986

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I was just wondering what you would gte in 3d Mark 2k1 SE...

BTW, werent you the one who was saying that the MX440 is not a good buy (this was around November I believe)?
 

Pyros

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For comparison purposes, my G3 Ti200 (64mb)with the setup in my sig has so far managed a 9550 in 3dmark2001se OC'ed to 225/540. Its a EVGA card as well, which arent exactly well know for there OC ability. As far as Nvidia chipsets go, I doubt there is a better bang for the buck.