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flixotide

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Ethical folding

Okay... I've seen a lot of people asking for the "hidden tray icon" recipe, and I figured it is time for me to write a few words down.

I find it great to see all the people adding one Ghz after the other to the folding projects, as it serves a good purpose.

Yet I tend to believe that some of those Ghz out there are added to corporate computers, computers at uni's etc., by people who aren't really allowed to do so.

Please reconsider if this is what you are doing, as it can have impacts on the computer itself, network security and also an impact on you.

I've seen students get thrown out of schools for hacking puters to add SETI@home clients or just adding clients to hundreds of computers. I've also seen IT guys getting fired from their jobs for doing the same thing.

Folding serves a good purpose, but that does NOT make it right for you abuse other people's computer equipment. So make sure YOU have permission to add such clients, before you do so.

- Update 11 oct. 2004. -

Here's a thread on something I hoped would never happen within the F@H community. Damaging for the F@H concept and the OCforums, DONT EVER consider doing anything like this.

Read this thread!!!

- end of update 11 oct. 2004 -

Here's a thread that gives an example on what SHOULD NOT happen again.

Cheers and thanks for your time.

Flixotide

----- Here's a popular version of a permission letter by Arkain 32 ---

To the ACC Computer Science Department,

I am writing on behalf of the members of the Folding@Home community to bring the Folding@Home Distributed Computing project to your attention.

The Folding@Home project uses spare processor cycles to synthesize and calculate how proteins fold, misfold, and aggregate. The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, remains a mystery. Moreover, perhaps not surprisingly, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious repercussions, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson's disease.

Folding@Home is a distributed computing project, which in essence is a technique that uses the internet to create a tremendous super-computer. By splitting the workload and sending small portions out to volunteers who donate their CPU time, the project is able to harness tens of thousands of CPU’s and move forward more far more quickly than it would running on a Cray super-computer. The folding client runs on an idle priority and never takes CPU cycles that are needed for other processes. Think of a CPU’s cycles as a glass of water. When you browse the internet or process documents, you only drink 1/20 of the glass, and the rest is unused.... The folding client "drinks" the other bits of water. The client lets the other programs take as much as they need. This in no way spies on your activities. Studies have shown that Folding@Home does not impact the performance of computers, and it only needs internet access to receive work packets and to send results, which occurs anywhere from three times per day to twice per week depending on the particular work unit and CPU involved. Bandwidth use is minimal and it operates on standard www and https ports 80 or 8080. Many schools and corporations are starting to help the scientific community by joining this or similar projects.

If security is an issue with your decision on allowing the client to be installed, I can assure you that the F@H client is quite safe. It uses a digital signature that is verified with each download of a new work unit. The signature is a very secure way to verify that no bogus files have been downloaded that may attack/affect your system. The Folding@Home project does not cost anything to you. The school can form its own official team for stats tracking and can then compete against teams (even other colleges) worldwide. Your individual lab administrators may form their own usernames within the team and compete with each other. Clients are available for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD.

You do not gain anything from folding, but science does and perhaps someday this research will cure protein disorders or find new treatments for some types of cancer, in which case the whole human race benefits. All in all, the client is free and uses very little hard drive space. You may find other uses for the client as well. In monitoring a few dozens of folding@home clients, I've found that they can help pinpoint hardware problems. The folding@home community and I hope that you will think about allowing this client to be installed on some of the school’s computers, even if only on a trial basis. Whatever you decide, I thank you for your time and consideration.

I urge you to seek more information about this exciting DC project at the official Folding@Home site: http://folding.stanford.edu
A free program to track folding@home clients across a local network can be found at:
 
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As stated by the guys above me, please get permission before borging school/corporate machines! I would hate to see anyone get fired/thrown out of school/procecuted for adding any DC project to unauthorized machines. It just gives DC projects a bad name when actions such as this happen and would hurt our cause.
 
Yeah, it is important, I set up F@H with "hide-it" on a computer at work, no one would have found out but the GUILT got to me.
I confessed to the boss and he was totally cool, said he did not mind as long as it does not interfere with the system when they need it, felt much better to come clean;)
 
I know of two Danish (now former) IT admins who've lost their jobs for spreading DC clients without consulting the company IT council first.

And I've witnessed pupils being suspended for adding DC software to school computeres without getting permission. One was thrown out permanently for hacking the system later on, to permanently add hidden SETI@Home clients...

So yes, it IS possible... so.. GET PERMISSION... for the love of God, do not do it without permission. It NEVER hurts to ask, and respect the response.

Cheers, Flixotide

(praying that wedo will agree with me... )
 
You're all absolutely right. As of this morning, I stopped all 10 folding clients I had at school. They were probably okay, but then again, I didn't ask. I'll miss 1000 points per week, though ... :(

Keep up the good work! -- Paul
 
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At our school, and many others, they actually have techs on campus that know what they are doing. They blocked access to saving anything except IE temporary internet files on their hard drives. I can't even save an MS Word file in my documents temporarily without getting an admin notice "YOU MAY NOT SAVE OR INSTALL ANY..."

I say if you want to ask permission (and it's a rather large college or has a rather large amount of computer), make sure you do it formally (aka an actual letter, typed!) and ask one of the computer nerds in the school that's high up there in decision making. Ask him/her if they would give you permission to install these very small clients to take up all excess cycles, but not bog the computers down at all... yada yada. Tell them what it's for and the college you will be assisting.

Don't ask your professor (college) and don't ask your teacher (hs). They have no right to grant you permission, because it's not their call to give you that authorization.

But the idea to get permission and to put these things on all or even just a few of the computers at school/work is an excellent idea. There's a lot of work those things can do since all they do most of the day is just get used for office apps and internet. Hope those that have started already got permission. If you haven't even thought of doing it at school- go ahead and ask and give it a try!

KEEP FOLDING~
~JeFF
 
I would like to hear the details to, if it doesn't depress you too much.

And any such example would only prove that Jeff is giving a good advice.. write a formal letter, have them sign it for permission.

I know it sounds extreme to many admins out there... but it seems like commercial bureaucracy still hasn't peaked yet, so its better to be safe, rather than sorry.

Cheers, Flixotide
 
diggingforgold said:


I say if you want to ask permission (and it's a rather large college or has a rather large amount of computer), make sure you do it formally (aka an actual letter, typed!) and ask one of the computer nerds in the school that's high up there in decision making. Ask him/her if they would give you permission to install these very small clients to take up all excess cycles, but not bog the computers down at all... yada yada. Tell them what it's for and the college you will be assisting.

KEEP FOLDING~
~JeFF


can someone write a letter that i can copy??? im really bad when it comes to things like that... thank you
 
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