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GF4MX460, GF3Ti500, or Radeon 8500 LE 64/128MB which one?

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Tipycol

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My friend is looking for a new video card. I convinced him (somehow:)) that a GF4TI4600 would be bottlenecked on his Athlon 750MHz. Now he wants one of the above, more specifically the Geforce 4 MX460. Now to my knowledge, the GF4 MX's are missing some things that the regular GF4's/GF3's have. I dunno how to change his mind exactly on that one. But just on your opinion, which one should I try to convince him to get?


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Tipycol
 
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Tipycol

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Johnny Knoxville said:
the GF4 MX sucks A**
for his computer a Radeon 8500 64mb will be enough

That's what I thought, but now it comes time for convincing again :( Maybe it wouldn't be as hard if I got the 128MB one. Anyone know any sites that compare the cards I listed in the title?


Thanks

Tipycol
 

Doofie27cp2

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what about geforce 4 mx 480? Newest mx g4.... Not sure how it compares...... remember there are geforce 4 mx 440 128 mb cards.
 

Cisco Kid

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get a Radeon 8500LE if he can get 128 DDR better and longer lasting for him

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Lancelot

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"what about geforce 4 mx 480? Newest mx g4.... Not sure how it compares"

MX460 is faster! MX480 is a new name for a MX440-chip that handles AGP 8x and has a 270Mhz coreclk / 512Mhz memclk compared to 300/550 for the MX460. They should've called it MX450 instead of 480 but the '80' sounds nice for AGP 8x ofcourse.

Saying GF4-MX's are crap shows ignorance. The MX460 (@330/660) is lightning-fast on my system while even bottlenecked by my CPU and AGP 2x. I mostly play JKII, Elite Force, Max Payne etc. and I'm not willing to spend a ton of money on a 'real' graphics card just to get 10k in 3DMark cuz you're only going to throw it out by the time games really start to need all it's features anyway.
 

RedDeathDrinker

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For good performance, an 8500LE is a good balance of value and quality. An MX440 would also do just as well (I use one with no complaints).

A better upgrade would be a processor.....depending on his mobo, he could get a 1.3GHz Duron for $40, or an XP1600 gor just over $50.......

If he can add that to his vid card, he'd be flying!
 

SickBoy

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I'd think the GF3 Ti500 would outperform all three of those cards **but** I do suppose this guy is on an Athlon 750 so they'll all be bottlenecked at the CPU, is my guess.

Which would be a reason to go with the higher image quality Radeon 8500.
 

funnyperson1

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Lancelot said:
"what about geforce 4 mx 480? Newest mx g4.... Not sure how it compares"

MX460 is faster! MX480 is a new name for a MX440-chip that handles AGP 8x and has a 270Mhz coreclk / 512Mhz memclk compared to 300/550 for the MX460. They should've called it MX450 instead of 480 but the '80' sounds nice for AGP 8x ofcourse.

Saying GF4-MX's are crap shows ignorance. The MX460 (@330/660) is lightning-fast on my system while even bottlenecked by my CPU and AGP 2x. I mostly play JKII, Elite Force, Max Payne etc. and I'm not willing to spend a ton of money on a 'real' graphics card just to get 10k in 3DMark cuz you're only going to throw it out by the time games really start to need all it's features anyway.

lol....what i meant is that you can get better for the price...

MSI MX440 is 60$ shipped
MX460 is 93$ shipped

You can get an 8500LE for 70-80$ shipped
You can get a Ti200 for 70-80$ shipped
For the same price as a MX460 you can get a Ti500

so why would one get an MX460? and stuff like advanced pixel shaders and the like are already out.....Aquanox, UT2003, DoomIII definately will have trouble running on DX7 parts.....im just saying it doesnt make sense..i think that the the extra 10-20$ is worth it

and yes, AGP8X doesn not make much of a difference with these cards....the boundaries of 4X are just starting to be stretched with the 9700...
 

eli

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skid said:



Eh? The Ti500 doesn't out perform the Radeon 8500.:)

Having had both, I would rather have the Ti500. Forget the stupid 3dmark scores. Perhaps it is personal preference, but I find the Ti500 to be a better card.
 

eli

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Price wise, the 8500 is a bit cheaper. I haven't overclocked my card, because I don't really see the point. I'm not a 3dmark hound, I just like to see good fps in games. I got the Ti500 when it was cheapper than the 8500 though, which was a big factor.
 

attack

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have you used a 8500? I like it much better then my normal gf3......for OCing and stock
 

Jawsome

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get a highend geforce 2 (TI/Ultra/GTS) or maybe stretching it pick up a GF3 TI 200 for cheap, but anything more will pretty much be bottlenecked on a athlon 750 anyway, dont waste your money on something you cant use to its potential.
 

Henry Rollins II

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eli said:


Having had both, I would rather have the Ti500. Forget the stupid 3dmark scores. Perhaps it is personal preference, but I find the Ti500 to be a better card.


Agree on that. Had the GF3 non-ti and 8500LE. Performance is pretty similar but the ATI has lot better features. In the long run the Nvidia wins beacuse it is more stable than the ATI.
 

Slayn

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Lancelot said:
"what about geforce 4 mx 480? Newest mx g4.... Not sure how it compares"

MX460 is faster! MX480 is a new name for a MX440-chip that handles AGP 8x and has a 270Mhz coreclk / 512Mhz memclk compared to 300/550 for the MX460. They should've called it MX450 instead of 480 but the '80' sounds nice for AGP 8x ofcourse.

Saying GF4-MX's are crap shows ignorance. The MX460 (@330/660) is lightning-fast on my system while even bottlenecked by my CPU and AGP 2x. I mostly play JKII, Elite Force, Max Payne etc. and I'm not willing to spend a ton of money on a 'real' graphics card just to get 10k in 3DMark cuz you're only going to throw it out by the time games really start to need all it's features anyway.

Actually, you show ignorance yourself. Is there even a difference between 2x and 4x? How can your card have been limited by the 2x. Do you even know how much of a difference it makes?