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golden orb and super orb on celeron

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sarusi79

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Dec 24, 2000
please help me i have [email protected] on asus p3v4x and i cant get my system stable on 840mz(80 fsb) and higher(how highe can it go?)
i have standart cooler of intel(standart temp is 46/114) does the golden orb worth somthing, the same for the super or and can i get it fit on socket 370
10x hai sarusi
 

Carmine_Paterno

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Dec 21, 2000
WOW thats really hott...I have a Celeron II 700 @ 877 right now With The ASUS P3V4X and it runs completely stable at 83 fsb @ 1.7v (default) Is your chip cC0 or cB0? If it is cC0 then just give it a good burnin...if it is cB0 then u are probably topped out. U definetly have the old P3V4x with the ICS chipset...and u have the other FSB...LUCKY U... I have the new one with the WINBOND and am missing 85,90,95...THAT PISSES ME OFF!!! But anyway...get me some information about your computer and chip and i wil try to help you...By the way the golden orb cooler sux as with the super orb... I suggest you try the method i use. My temps are high too but not as high. Once u give me some more info i will tell u what to do.

Celeron II 700 @ 877 (83fsb) 1.7v (default) hoping for 1.05ghz doing a real long burnin for 2 weeks right now at 12 hours 25 mins...Ati Radeon 32 mb ddr @ 227.8/382...I am sticking with P!!!'s from now on...ABIT VP6 coming with P!!! 700's going to be @ 1ghz each...raid etc...with did i mention ELSA GLADIAC 64mb DDR GEFORCE II ULTRA??? HEHE
 

wild_andy_c

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A general rule of thumb is cB0 celeron good for 950Mhz, cC0 Celeron good for 1000Mhz.

It is not safe however to assume that you will achieve these dizzy heights with any Celeron.

The 700 isn't the worst (the 733 and 766 are) but it is terrible for overclocking. Many people think that since it's base speed is faster than other celerons - they will be able to overclock it further. The cores of the chips are the same - just the multipliers are different.

The two best chips for the purpose are th 566 and 600 celerons.

I would not be suprised if you never get more than 83Mhz FSB from one of these chips and also if you don't damage your periperhal components rather badly in the process.
 

MaxOClock

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Dec 25, 2000
I'm using Gorb now and it sucks! Max rpm @ 4900, just an increase of 200rpm compared to original h/s fan! 1-2'C colling only. BTW, i heard Superorbs are meant for Durons, but if you really want it, try to be careful with the installation coz' i heard friends breaking the clips of their mobo!
 

ToddE

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Dec 19, 2000
I have seen reports of stock Intel HSFs being better coolers than the Orb series(dare I say) coolers. Thermaltake is a shitty company that makes, you guessed it, ****. I can not stress this enough, take the Orb out of your computer, walk over to your trash can and toss it. It is NOT going to help you in anyway acheive a stable overclocked platform.

If you cant afford a good cooler you may opt to replace the fan on the Intel HS with a better, high RPM fan. Toms Hardware actually said the Intel HSF is of good design, although it still isnt a good choice for overclockers in it stock form.
 

DRR93454

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Don't want to start a war, but I and a lot of others have had great luck with the Gorbs.! My 566 at 852mz is running at 26C as we speak and hits 40C during 3D Mk 2000. I always lap them and use thermal paste.
 

Tim-

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Dec 18, 2000
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Too late- the war's already started... Orb's are notorious for not being flat, so you addressed the major shortcoming by lapping. It would probably cure many people's problems as well. As they come though, I can't get too enthused.
 

kn7671

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Dec 19, 2000
Lapping is a smoothing or polishing of a surface. The purpose people do this do a CPU or heatsink is this: CPU - reduce the amount of material between the core of the processor and the top surface, also try to increase the trueness of the surface and eliminate more surface irregularities. Heatsink - Increase trueness of the base of the heatsink surface, and reduce surface irregularities. What this does is increase the heat transfer from the CPU to the heatsink. If the surfaces of the to CPU and heatsink are true, flat, with as few pits, scratches, etc... on the surfaces this will allow better contact between them. Now the main purpose of heatsink compound, grease, is to fill in these irregular surfaces and assist in heat transfer. If the surfaces are better to begin with from the lapping that the transfer will be even better. I really feel the most benefit comes from reducing the amount of material on the top of the CPU, thus getting the actual heatsink closer to the heat source and allowing it to perform its function better.