Right now I can get the 980ti for about $15 less than the 1070. From what I can tell, at stock speeds the 1070 is only a few percent faster. I plan to overclock the card, so which makes more sense? I've heard the 1070 has a lot of problems overclocking with high temps and throttling. Is this still true?
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GTX 980ti vs GTX1070?
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My Gigabyte GTX1070 runs cool and quiet at stock ( FE ) cooler. After overclocking it's about the same. I can easily set 2000MHz+. Comparing to that GTX980 ( not even Ti ) generates more heat and noise. GTX980/Ti is also overclocking not so good without additional bios mods and better cooling.
I don't know who said there are problems with overclocking or overheating. My card is not passing 80*C and throttling point is something above 90*C ( don't remember if it was 91 or 95*C ). I was thinking to get better cooler but it's quiet so I'm not sure if there is point to spend additional money on cooling. 3rd party coolers should perform better and right now some higher series cost not much more than reference (FE) cards.
Next thing is that nvidia will probably stop improving drivers for GTX900 series like they did after each new gpu premiere. Simply they will fix stability issues in games but won't add performance updates for any older series. The same was with GTX600, GTX700 and I doubt that will change now. They are only cleaning stock from "old" cards and will focus on new chips.
I could expect that AMD will improve performance of all their series but all they have is Fury which is not overclocking at all and is still too expensive to be interesting. There is also RX480 which needs some improvements and is not high end series. Everything else is just old and slow. I also heard that AMD has issues with RX480 production and card manufacturers have shortage of chips so any improved RX480 will have delay.
I don't know who said there are problems with overclocking or overheating. My card is not passing 80*C and throttling point is something above 90*C ( don't remember if it was 91 or 95*C ). I was thinking to get better cooler but it's quiet so I'm not sure if there is point to spend additional money on cooling. 3rd party coolers should perform better and right now some higher series cost not much more than reference (FE) cards.
Next thing is that nvidia will probably stop improving drivers for GTX900 series like they did after each new gpu premiere. Simply they will fix stability issues in games but won't add performance updates for any older series. The same was with GTX600, GTX700 and I doubt that will change now. They are only cleaning stock from "old" cards and will focus on new chips.
I could expect that AMD will improve performance of all their series but all they have is Fury which is not overclocking at all and is still too expensive to be interesting. There is also RX480 which needs some improvements and is not high end series. Everything else is just old and slow. I also heard that AMD has issues with RX480 production and card manufacturers have shortage of chips so any improved RX480 will have delay.
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For $15 dollars more get the 1070. No more driver improvements for the 980Ti and it uses more power, makes more heat and more noise. And it's slower. 
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I've only recently got a 1070 in addition to the 980Ti and this is something I've been thinking about. The 1070 FE I have does boost a lot without manual overclocking, so I'm not sure how much more headroom you can get out of that. Take my TineSpy example, it was boosting to around 1900, and it doesn't sound like people are getting that much more above that before hitting a wall.
On the other hand, the 980Ti has a lot more cores and in benchmarking it still seems competitive, if you can get the clocks up. Hence my looking at water cooling recently. Mine is a reference one at 1076 and is already at its thermal limit. I hope once I remove that, it can really start pushing out bigger numbers, but of course after market cooling will add a lot to the cost as I'm finding... I could buy another 1070 for the cost of a decent water setup for the 980Ti.
On the other hand, the 980Ti has a lot more cores and in benchmarking it still seems competitive, if you can get the clocks up. Hence my looking at water cooling recently. Mine is a reference one at 1076 and is already at its thermal limit. I hope once I remove that, it can really start pushing out bigger numbers, but of course after market cooling will add a lot to the cost as I'm finding... I could buy another 1070 for the cost of a decent water setup for the 980Ti.
On current GTX1070 cooling is not changing anything as all have the same power/voltage limits and reach temps below throttling point. It may change when we will see any fully modifed versions or software to pass voltage limits.
My GTX1070 FE boosts up to 1911MHz without overclocking ( read from GPU-Z ). Max OC without artifacts is about 2070MHz. Max with single artifacts something above 2100MHz ( still is passing every benchmark without issues but sometimes texture is blinking here or there ).
My GTX1070 FE boosts up to 1911MHz without overclocking ( read from GPU-Z ). Max OC without artifacts is about 2070MHz. Max with single artifacts something above 2100MHz ( still is passing every benchmark without issues but sometimes texture is blinking here or there ).
Exactly... I honestly find it hard to believe that temps would hold anything back. Drop a boost bin or so, sure, but you are not maxing out temps. These things are locked up pretty tight with temps not being the issue. Its voltage and power limit.
Typically results seem to be around that 2075 MHz range give or take. The 1070 I had (MSI Gaming X) topped out at 2126 MHz on the core.
Typically results seem to be around that 2075 MHz range give or take. The 1070 I had (MSI Gaming X) topped out at 2126 MHz on the core.
Actually FE are not any special series. All cards have random chips and there is no ASIC anymore. Regardless of series all make about 2080MHz +/- 50MHz at the same stock voltage. Power delivery may affect overclocking but all cards have to work at nvidia specs. When you check various reviews then you will see that FE are better and worse but in general are overclocking the same as other series.
Zotac is a bad example as they are messing with voltage controllers and even their GTX900 series were not working as they supposed to. However I saw that in first reviews Strix was overclocking worse than FE. On the other hand all MSI in reviews that I saw could make 2080-2120MHz regardless if it was FE, Gaming or Armor.
Zotac is a bad example as they are messing with voltage controllers and even their GTX900 series were not working as they supposed to. However I saw that in first reviews Strix was overclocking worse than FE. On the other hand all MSI in reviews that I saw could make 2080-2120MHz regardless if it was FE, Gaming or Armor.
I've read people are having great luck overclocking their Zotac 980Ti's -- particularly on water.
They would have to be modifying the Bios to have any significant overclock voltage, with any card you could do that for a while. It's really the luck of the draw with silicone.
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