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Hello oh great gurus,

First off, sorry for double posting, but I am posting this in both the cpu and motherboard forums as I am not sure exactly what the specific problem is.

Well I took my first plunge into A64 land. I picked up a 3500 Venice CBBLE from Newegg, along with an MSI K8N Neo2 motherboard. (ordered cpu on 4/28 received on 5/5). Didnt get all the parts at once, so I didnt get around to putting it together until yesterday. Now I am having problems.

When I power up, the fans turn on, drives light up and everything, but no POST. I am starting with the bare minimum components: mouse/keyboard, vid card, hdd, floppy, dvd drive, one stick of ram. I have even reduced that to no drives, moved ram to different slots, and have double checked that everything is seated/plugged in properly. I am also always sure to regularly ground myself to reduce the chance of ESD. I have cleared the cmos via the jumper and have also tried pulling the battery.

On the MSI D-Bracket, the 4 led's stay lit, which according to the book indicates "The D-LED will hang here if the processor is damaged or not installed properly."

I removed the heatsink and AS5 and re-applied/re-mounted cpu, AS5, & hsf. Still no post. Just a black screen with fans running, and the D-Bracket still showing all 4 led's lit.

Here's the specific components that I am currently using:
OEM 3500+ Venice CBBLE
Zalman CNPS7000B-CU 92mm
MSI K8N Neo2
(2) sticks of Corsair 3200XL (tried one at a time)
Antec Neo Power 480w psu
Hercules Radeon 9800 Pro
Seagate 80 gig sata
Pioneer DVD

Could this be a bios issue? If so, is it possible to flash without a cpu?

Could it be an issue with the Antec Neo Power? I've read accounts of problems earlier on, but it sounds like those have been resolved.

Could it just be a dead cpu? Should I RMA it? I wasnt particularly happy about how it was packaged from newegg--it was in a larger-than-necessary Fed-Ex box, with one little puffed up air bag in it. The cpu (in its plastic case) was free to move around, but it did not appear to have any damaged pins or anything. The only thing visibly that caught my eye was some tiny "scuffs" on the heat spreader, as though maybe it had been mounted and tested or something...nothing that really spooked me or anything...

So anyway, I'm stumped. I've tried everything that I can think of for now. I was ready to just fill out an RMA request from the egg, but figured I'd turn here first. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Welcome to the club :)

I'm *sort of* in your boat.

I atleast post. I have a 3200 venice + a neo2. I updated my bios, memtested it, checked my drives, and I think I have a bad chip with a bad memory controller (memtest has thousands of errors on my ram and on some 'rented' ram from best buy)

As far as you go, if it doesn't even post, so you don't need to worry about bios yet. Either you killed the mobo by grounding it to the case or the Antec killed it. I bought a new PSU for this upgrade, and I had a truepower 430. Alot of people had problems with the neo2 and Antec psu's, but some didn't.

Just check all of your cables (ide, power, etc.) and then make sure nothing is grounding your mobo. The psu might have killed off your mobo, or you have a funked processor (like I suspect of my system) Either test out your proc in another rig if you can, or try another psu if you can.

Good luck. Keep us posted.
 
Doh! You said that the fans still run and all. Are they plugged into the mobo? I remember reading that if the antec killed a mobo, fans wouldn't even whir around. Maybe it is just a bad processor.

Try the safe mode thing, but I'm having doubts on it. If you can't even post, I doubt you'll be able to post in safe mode. It's more or less a way to get into your bios without resetting the cmos after you overclock too much and the system keeps in a crash loop.
 
Nope i bet he plugged his DVD rom into IDE 1 (it likes to be on ide 2)

I had the same problem and that was what caused it
 
hey thanks for the quick replies.I tried all suggestions here

Good news! After re-mounting the cpu and hsf for a THIRD time it worked... was sure to apply a little pressure on the cpu while pushing the socket lever down and I think that was the ticket. The cpu looked flush before, but after reading that little tidbit in the mobo book I realized I didnt do that previousy. :bang head:

Thanks all, A tinkering I will go....
 
Good to hear it is working. I was just about to start a new post wondering if the new Venice core's are compatible the NEO2, because I am building my friend a 939/AGP setup. :)
 
OK, here's the deal. I have a K8N Neo2 Platinum and a Venice 3200+, both brand new from the 'egg, just received them yesterday. Set up the new rig today. First boot just like CADDguy describes in his original post. Tried all the suggestions, no joy. So the question is, do I RMA the board or the cpu?
 
DOH! It helps to have a jumper on the CMOS pins! The one thing I had not tried prior to giving up was to clear the CMOS (yeah, I know, that should have been one the first things I tried!). Well when I went to clear the CMOS, I discovered there was no jumper on the pins. Found it in the static bag the board came in! Gonna start a new thread about which pin is which, since they are not marked.
 
{AG}Sgt.Stryker said:
DOH! It helps to have a jumper on the CMOS pins! The one thing I had not tried prior to giving up was to clear the CMOS (yeah, I know, that should have been one the first things I tried!). Well when I went to clear the CMOS, I discovered there was no jumper on the pins. Found it in the static bag the board came in! Gonna start a new thread about which pin is which, since they are not marked.
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it will tell you in the manual which setting is which for that jumper. mine does
 
Yeah, the manual tells you which pins to use, but it doesn't give you any clue as to which way the header is oriented on the board, and the board itself isn't marked other than the labal JBAT1 for the header. I have observed that MSI has been inconsistent in the manual as to "which way is up" in the depiction of the various headers and pins.
 
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Heres the answer to that, which I posted in your other thread. I'll post it here also because I know someone else is going to answer it in both threads anyway :p

MoPMatrix said:
Put the jumper on the 2 pins closest to the button edge of the board for normal operation.
Put the jumper on the 2 pins closest to the orange PCI slot to reset the CMOS.
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Hey dudes and dudettes! Here I am talking to you on my new, fully functional K8N/Venice rig! Still loading drivers and such, but so far I'm very happy with this combination. Gotta run some benchies to see how she compares to my main rig (sig).
 
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