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chrissme

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Hi, I'm coming from the Mac world, I have several years leaving the build to my PC to Apple, now I have 2 options to build, which one do you recommend? any sugestions?

I don't play that much, I code and design, but I want something as future proof as posible but without the premium price to have the new edge tech because it doesn't worth it, i think :)

MSI:


Intel core i7 6700k: $319.00 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Unlock...&qid=1477805355&sr=1-1&keywords=core+i7+6700k

Z170A Gaming M7: $187.60 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Enthuast...id=1477806056&sr=8-1&keywords=Z170A-GAMING-M7

Ripjaws V Series DDR4: $307.75 https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...=1477806726&sr=8-16&keywords=4x16gb+ddr4+z170

MSI Computer GTX 1080 GAMING: $654.99 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1080...77807722&sr=8-1&keywords=msi+nvidia+1080&th=1

Samsung 950 PRO: $183.99 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-...ie=UTF8&qid=1478042538&sr=1-4&keywords=m2+ssd

Crystal Series 460X RGB: $139.99 http://www.corsair.com/en/crystal-series-460x-rgb-compact-atx-mid-tower-case#

Acer T272HUL: $809.99 https://www.amazon.com/Acer-T272HUL...UTF8&qid=1478103238&sr=1-2&keywords=Acer+T272


ROG:

Asus Motherboard RAMPAGE V EDITION 10: $568.99 https://www.amazon.com/Asus-Motherboard-RAMPAGE-V-10/dp/B01GHQM1CA/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_i

Intel Boxed Core i7-6850K: $589.99 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-685...47_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=A42SNB13AQTREVGVTRKM&th=1

Samsung 950 PRO: $183.99 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-...ie=UTF8&qid=1478042538&sr=1-4&keywords=m2+ssd

Ripjaws V Series DDR4: $307.75 https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...=1477806726&sr=8-16&keywords=4x16gb+ddr4+z170

ASUS GeForce GTX 1080: $719.99
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce...78063521&sr=8-3&keywords=rog+nvidia+1080&th=1

Crystal Series 460X RGB: $139.99 http://www.corsair.com/en/crystal-series-460x-rgb-compact-atx-mid-tower-case#

Acer T272HUL: $809.99 https://www.amazon.com/Acer-T272HUL...UTF8&qid=1478103238&sr=1-2&keywords=Acer+T272

Thanks for all the help.
 

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Design.............. what? What application do you use to 'design'?

1. I would think 64GB is overkill unless you know you are already coming close to 32GB...
2. If you hardly game, I don't think its in your best interests to get a 1080 at 2560x1440. A 1070 will do just fine there.
3. Why a $800 Acer? Why is that thing $800????
4. Depending on your 'design', you may be just fine with the first build.
5. In the second build, there is ZERO reason to get a $550 motherboard. Anything will do quite honestly. Something like this for half: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130934&cm_re=X99-_-13-130-934-_-Product
 

trents

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I would point out that both CPUs you list are "k" series CPUs. That means they are made for overclocking. Do you intend to overclock this new system? If so, one thing you have neglected to list is good aftermarket CPU cooling. If you don't intend to overclock then you can save some bucks by going with the non k equivalents. I realize that coming from the Mac world, where all control over your hardware has been denied you, that "overclocking" may be a foreign concept to you.
 

bob4933

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Im leaning more "work station" than "pc" here.

We do need to know what software youre running. Adobe products (AE, photoshop, premier, etc) love ram, but aren't super well optimized for high core counts. CAD programs are an oddball, because they favor low count, high speed cores over many, but during rendering, more cores is more cores and almost always increases productivity.


Basically, if OP is doing a ton of rendering, then more cores is a better choice.
 
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chrissme

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Hi EarthDog, thanks for the reply

Mmm right now is pretty basic design, Illustrator, Photoshop, but I want to be ready to move to 3d if is need it.

1. I would think 64GB is overkill unless you know you are already coming close to 32GB...
- I will be probably fine with 32Gb maybe this:
https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...07578&sr=8-2&keywords=G.SKILL+32GB+(2+x+16GB)
I actually pick 64 because it was cheepest than upgrade later, but you are probably right.

2. If you hardly game, I don't think its in your best interests to get a 1080 at 2560x1440. A 1070 will do just fine there.
Well it is future proof, or is what I'm trying to do, I will probably want to add one or two 5k monitor in the near future, even can be the one I buy now, I'm not totally sell it bu the 2560x1440 resolution, but is the higher it can be buy with a ridiculos price.

3. Why a $800 Acer? Why is that thing $800????
Well I was thinking to buy two dell ultrasharp u3415w and use daisy chain:
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSh...108412&sr=1-1&keywords=dell+ultrasharp+u3415w
But it looks like Microsoft is moving to touchscreens, and I like the idea to have one, I tryied 1 in a laptop once and I love it.

4. Depending on your 'design', you may be just fine with the first build.
It should be prepare for virtual machines and stuff like that, do you think that will be enough?

5. In the second build, there is ZERO reason to get a $550 motherboard. Anything will do quite honestly. Something like this for half: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-934-_-Product
That MB don't have wifi and I will need it, and the AC1900 ones cost almost $100, then the Asus MB don't look that expensive.

It have any sense, please feel free to tell me it doesn't jeje.
 
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Hi trents, well I understand how it works, I'm just scare to do it lol, I pick the K series because allow me to OC in the future if I need it, but maybe this don't have any sense at all. What do you think?
 

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I think should answer the other questions as far as use/applications as well. :)

As far as overclocking, the choice is yours. Plenty of people buy a K and wait to overclock it.
 
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Well I'm not actually doing a lot of heavy intensive work, I'm doing web dev (Virtual machines, IDEs, sometimes compiling), designing Illustrator, Photoshop etc.

The point is that I want to be ready to move to 3d work if is need it, and play whatever I want, but maybe I'm going way to out of scope, maybe I'm thinking in a computer I don't actually need it.

PS: What I'm trying to avoid is to buy something today and have to expend a lot of money soon because a foundation piece is not enough.
 
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DaveB

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Hi, I'm coming from the Mac world, I have several years leaving the build to my PC to Apple, now I have 2 options to build, which one do you recommend? any sugestions?

I don't play that much, I code and design, but I want something as future proof as posible but without the premium price to have the new edge tech because it doesn't worth it, i think :)
ROG:

Asus Motherboard RAMPAGE V EDITION 10: $568.99 https://www.amazon.com/Asus-Motherboard-RAMPAGE-V-10/dp/B01GHQM1CA/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_i

Intel Boxed Core i7-6850K: $589.99 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-685...47_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=A42SNB13AQTREVGVTRKM&th=1

Samsung 950 PRO: $183.99 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-...ie=UTF8&qid=1478042538&sr=1-4&keywords=m2+ssd

Ripjaws V Series DDR4: $307.75 https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...=1477806726&sr=8-16&keywords=4x16gb+ddr4+z170

ASUS GeForce GTX 1080: $719.99
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce...78063521&sr=8-3&keywords=rog+nvidia+1080&th=1

Crystal Series 460X RGB: $139.99 http://www.corsair.com/en/crystal-series-460x-rgb-compact-atx-mid-tower-case#

Acer T272HUL: $809.99 https://www.amazon.com/Acer-T272HUL...UTF8&qid=1478103238&sr=1-2&keywords=Acer+T272

Thanks for all the help.
If you go LGA 2011-v3, get the cheaper i7 6800K for $439 vs. $589 and save $150.
Then ditch the Asus Rampage V Edition 10 motherboard for something like the Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 for $235 vs. $590 and save another $255.
As mentioned above, you could get the Asus 1070 ROG Strix for $450 vs. $720 for the 1080 and save $270.
There's $675 in your pocket. Spend $130 of your savings upgrading to the 512GB version of the Samsung 950 PRO Series PCIe NVMe M.2 drive and you've still saved $545.
The use $100 of the $545 savings for a nice PSU like the Fully Modular, EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 80+ GOLD 750W.

Just a few suggestions. The Case and Monitor is up to you.
 
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chrissme

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Ok, adding the latest answers I have this:

MSI 2:

Intel core i7 6800k: $439.50 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-680...1478151392&sr=1-1&keywords=core+i7+6800k&th=1

Z170A Gaming M7: $187.60 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Enthuast...id=1477806056&sr=8-1&keywords=Z170A-GAMING-M7

Ripjaws V Series DDR4: $164.95 https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...07578&sr=8-2&keywords=G.SKILL+32GB+(2+x+16GB)

MSI Computer GTX 1070 GAMING: $405.99 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-G...8&qid=1478151982&sr=8-3&keywords=msi+1070+gtx

Samsung 950 PRO: $183.99 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-950-P...eywords=m2+ssd

Crystal Series 460X RGB: $139.99 http://www.corsair.com/en/crystal-se...id-tower-case#

EVGA SuperNOVA 750: $105.90 https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNO...gold+certified+fully-modular+atx+power+supply

ARCTIC MX-4 Thermal Paste: $6.99 https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Perfo...8&qid=1478152512&sr=1-3&keywords=termic+paste

Rosewill WiFi Adapter: $44.99 https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Ada...d=1478154138&sr=1-2&keywords=wifi+pci+card+ac


The monitors I'm considering are:

1- Acer T272HUL: $809.99 https://www.amazon.com/Acer-T272HUL-...ords=Acer+T272

2- 2 x ASUS MG28UQ 28: $409.99 https://www.amazon.com/MG28UQ-3840x...F8&qid=1478153117&sr=1-11&keywords=5k+monitor (Maybe with a small touchscreen auxiliar monitor)

3- 2 x Samsung U28E590D 28-Inch: $339.99 https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-U28E...F8&qid=1478153117&sr=1-15&keywords=5k+monitor (Maybe with a small touchscreen auxiliar monitor)

What do you recommend for cooling? I'm missing something?
 

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*sigh...

- If you're serious about content creation, you should be looking at a drawing pad anyway. A touch screen will not give you fine resolution like a high quality pad will. Look at wacom's offerings.
- You should also be entertaining a 10 bit panel for your monitor.
- You need a cpu cooler with a 6800k. It does not come with one.
- 6800k is x99, not z170, your motherboard selection wouldnt even work
- you dont need a 750w psu, the 650w will give you plenty of room to work with, unless youre planning on running dual titans and overclocking EVERYTHING
- mx-4 is kinda "meh" but doesn't matter a whole bunch I guess
- there are better wifi adapters out there
 
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- If you're serious about content creation, you should be looking at a drawing pad anyway. A touch screen will not give you fine resolution like a high quality pad will. Look at wacom's offerings.
I already have one :) I just think touchscreen are cool, but probably doesn't worth the price and loss the extra pixels yet.

- You should also be entertaining a 10 bit panel for your monitor.
Do you have a favorite? Any suggestions?

- You need a cpu cooler with a 6800k. It does not come with one.
How about the 6700k?

- 6800k is x99, not z170, your motherboard selection wouldnt even work
My bad, It was late and I was tired 6700k it is then.

- you dont need a 750w psu, the 650w will give you plenty of room to work with, unless youre planning on running dual titans and overclocking EVERYTHING
Ok :) thanks.
EVGA SuperNOVA 650: $79.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0106RDIN2/ref=twister_B01LXKQ07C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

- mx-4 is kinda "meh" but doesn't matter a whole bunch I guess
Can you please suggest me one?

- there are better wifi adapters out there
Can you please suggest me one?

I really appreciate your help.
 

bob4933

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No, touch screens arent worth it yet. They wont be for 3d cad type work, probably ever. They wont ever be precise enough.

For monitors, Im not the best to ask. Off the cuff, the benq PD2700q comes to mind.

No, the 6700k doesnt come with a cpu cooler either

thats ok

that one is great


artic silver 5 is the "go to" recommendation. THAT SAID, it truly wont matter for your uses. If someone told you to get mx-4, thats totally fine.


and I recommend this for wifi

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1&cm_re=tp_link_ac1900-_-33-704-241-_-Product
 

Kenrou

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I thought M$ was moving AWAY from touch screens after the Win8 Metro debacle :confused:
 
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bob4933

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Either go cheap and get a 212 evo on sale for 25-30$, or spend 10$ and get a better cooler than the 612.