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trents

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2008
Several things:

1. Why did you purchase two individual RAM sticks instead of a dual channel matched pair kit? Just because they are the same make and model doesn't guarantee they will do dual channel in stable fashion. Get a kit that is matched from the factory because they come from the same production batch.
2. Why are you getting 16gb of RAM? For playing games, 8 gb would be plenty.
3. Why did you choose an AMD APU and then buy an expensive video card. APU processors have video built in but you won't be using it. Yet you are still paying for it. If you really want to go with AMD then get an X4 860k. Cheaper, but just as powerful as what you list. No integrated video.
4. You don't need a separate audio card. That cheap card you chose will likely be no better than the motherboard's onboard audio.
5. If you want a good gaming machine then you need to look at an Intel i5 6600k. Much more processing power than AMD APUs.

Do you have a budget?
 

XN

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Apr 13, 2016
Much better system for $10 less, I kept as much of your initial build as possible, removed useless items such as audio card and here it is:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.77 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($324.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.46 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1207.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-14 04:13 EDT-0400
 
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Slashercams

New Member
Joined
Apr 13, 2016
Several things:

1. Why did you purchase two individual RAM sticks instead of a dual channel matched pair kit? Just because they are the same make and model doesn't guarantee they will do dual channel in stable fashion. Get a kit that is matched from the factory because they come from the same production batch.
2. Why are you getting 16gb of RAM? For playing games, 8 gb would be plenty.
3. Why did you choose an AMD APU and then buy an expensive video card. APU processors have video built in but you won't be using it. Yet you are still paying for it. If you really want to go with AMD then get an X4 860k. Cheaper, but just as powerful as what you list. No integrated video.
4. You don't need a separate audio card. That cheap card you chose will likely be no better than the motherboard's onboard audio.
5. If you want a good gaming machine then you need to look at an Intel i5 6600k. Much more processing power than AMD APUs.

Do you have a budget?

1:I had no idea that's required, thanks for letting me know before I potentially had wasted money.

2:I'm looking for something that'll run way more than just games and that'll last me a while so I won't have to upgrade later on.

3: I thought it'd be more powerful and capable of running larger things and I hadn't noticed that the AMD APU had an integrated graphics until now.

4: When I saw a cheap audio card I had thought it could do better than the original and it wasn't a lot of money so I was willing to try it.

5: I had heard that AMD APUs were stronger for gaming than the core series but thanks for clarifying that.

I'd like to not spend over $1200

- - - Updated - - -

Much better system for $10 less,

I may go with this, thank you.
 

XN

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Apr 13, 2016
I don't think you need to spend all that much for what you're aiming to do.

Swap the card for the R9 380:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.77 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($239.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.46 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1122.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-14 08:29 EDT-0400

You can also build something around an octa core AMD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.15 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.77 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($239.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($125.46 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($76.89 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1118.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-14 08:38 EDT-0400
 

Johan45

Benching Team Leader Super Moderator
Joined
Dec 19, 2012
If gaming is the goal I would stick with the i5 the only thing I would change is get the K version and a z170 motherboard. This will allow you to overclock quite easily which will help maintain performance going into the next few years. Also stick to the GTX 970
 

trents

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2008
If gaming is the goal I would stick with the i5 the only thing I would change is get the K version and a z170 motherboard. This will allow you to overclock quite easily which will help maintain performance going into the next few years. Also stick to the GTX 970

I agree. Go for the GTX 970 instead of the 980 and put the extra money into the "k" version of the i5 which is overclockable.

You also need to look at getting a quality aftermarket CPU cooler.

I would not go with AMD if you are looking for a performance level that gives some degree of future-proofing. They have fallen far behind Intel in performance.
 
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