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Help. Quad core roasting with Tuniq
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It might sounds crazy, but it defintively will be interesting to try the supplied heatsink from Intel.
If this one keep reasonable temps (bellow 80°C for load, that is for sure) then the IHS is bumpy... And you should be able to tell that by the razor, eye and light from back
Good luck.
PS. it is true that using the Tuniq and not the supplied Intel heatsink you voided you warranty, but only IF you admit that to the vendor Another reason to use the default heatsink to make it look used, when you need the RMA
If this one keep reasonable temps (bellow 80°C for load, that is for sure) then the IHS is bumpy... And you should be able to tell that by the razor, eye and light from back
Good luck.
PS. it is true that using the Tuniq and not the supplied Intel heatsink you voided you warranty, but only IF you admit that to the vendor
Another reason to use the default heatsink to make it look used, when you need the RMA 
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Immortal_Hero said:
Using a non stock cooler does NOT void the warranty, it gives it the same warranty period as an oem processor (1 year). Lapping the processor most certainly does void the warranty however...
wombat778,
I'm curious what the outcome is tonight, keep us posted.
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One simple question is did you set your voltage or is it on auto ? I rember when c2ds frist came out some ppl were getting tonz of heat because the auto feature was overvolting the CPU .
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trodas: Unfortunately the processor is an OEM one that didn't come with any stock cooler at all. The good news is that I know I have a valid 1-year warranty on it, but it is through the vendor not Intel.
Console: I have the voltage set to auto. When I get home I will try setting it lower to see what happens.
Console: I have the voltage set to auto. When I get home I will try setting it lower to see what happens.
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custom90gt - this is what I get from AMD:
(I dubt that differ for Intel, but I beg pardon if it does)
wombat778 - well, first set it to what it should be. Console mentioned that the auto value set the voltage higher that it should be - so all you have to do is to provide the right voltage... Altrough I would more bet the bumpy IHS is the problem - maybe with conjuction to the overvolting, but come on. How much it does overvolt? It is like single/dual core difference on AMD? 1.40 or 1.35V? Nah, that can't change 80°C in prime...
So please do not confuse people that using ANY OTHER heatsink that the supplied original ones does not void them the warranty (if they mention that). In case of OEM product is this okay, but the warranty is not 3 years, but one and just with the seller. Eg. if the seller bankrupt, then you are pretty fu*ked up!
(I dubt that differ for Intel, but I beg pardon if it does)
wombat778 - well, first set it to what it should be. Console mentioned that the auto value set the voltage higher that it should be - so all you have to do is to provide the right voltage... Altrough I would more bet the bumpy IHS is the problem - maybe with conjuction to the overvolting, but come on. How much it does overvolt? It is like single/dual core difference on AMD? 1.40 or 1.35V? Nah, that can't change 80°C in prime...
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trodas said:
According to Intel you may use an aftermarket heatsink on a retail product, but the warranty goes down to an oem warranty (one year). This is what numerous intel reps have confirmed as an IPD (intel product dealer). AMD may be different, but this is according to intel.
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Ok guys, here are the pics. First, here is what I did:
1) I removed the MB and then the Tuniq. I cleaned the heatsink and the processor using high purity isopropryl and 100% cotton swabs.
2) I put on a dollup of AS5 about the size of a BB/grain of rice. I mounted the heatsing tight and then removed it. Here is what it looked like after:
(note the scratchmarks on the bottom of heatsink from the edges of the IHS)
3) I cleaned up the processor and Tuniq again. Here is the bottom of the Tuniq again where you can clearly see the scratchmarks:
4) I checked the flatness of the IHS using a razor blade. I got the definate impression that it is slightly concave, as the edges are raised. I did my best to get a photo of this, and here is what it looks like:
5) I reapplied a small daub of AS5 to the processor. This pic shows how much:
6) I reattached the Tuniq tightly and put the MB back in. Here is the rig ready to go:
Ok, ok. So the wiring still needs some tidying up...its a work in progress.
7) Unfortunately no change for the better in the temps. Still hitting 78C on core 1 during load.
Do you guys think it is RMA time for the processor? I can always try the lapping approach if they refuse to take it back...
1) I removed the MB and then the Tuniq. I cleaned the heatsink and the processor using high purity isopropryl and 100% cotton swabs.
2) I put on a dollup of AS5 about the size of a BB/grain of rice. I mounted the heatsing tight and then removed it. Here is what it looked like after:
(note the scratchmarks on the bottom of heatsink from the edges of the IHS)
3) I cleaned up the processor and Tuniq again. Here is the bottom of the Tuniq again where you can clearly see the scratchmarks:
4) I checked the flatness of the IHS using a razor blade. I got the definate impression that it is slightly concave, as the edges are raised. I did my best to get a photo of this, and here is what it looks like:
5) I reapplied a small daub of AS5 to the processor. This pic shows how much:
6) I reattached the Tuniq tightly and put the MB back in. Here is the rig ready to go:
Ok, ok. So the wiring still needs some tidying up...its a work in progress.
7) Unfortunately no change for the better in the temps. Still hitting 78C on core 1 during load
.Do you guys think it is RMA time for the processor? I can always try the lapping approach if they refuse to take it back...
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Looks as if the base of the Tuniq Tower is concave from the spreading of the AS5, the CPU looks to also be a little from the razor blade test. I would start by lapping the TT. Plus that base has a horrible finish, IMO anyway of course anything not lapped to 1500 grit has a bad finish IMO also so take it for what it is worth. If you are getting what I call good contract that amount of AS5 would be spilling over the edges when you unmounted it. I say the TT is your problem. One thing you could try before lapping is more mounting pressure those things take a good amount of pressure.
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Thanks for the input folks. I will try lapping the Tuniq this weekend. If that does not work well enough, I am inclined to go to a water setup. If that still is not enough, then I can go the IHS lapping route and pray that my clumsy hands don't kill my $1000 cpu.
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Ok guys i dont think there is anything wrong with his cooling setup. dual cores get hotter than single core. we are used to that and now we are dealing with 2 extra cores, not something we are used too. So those 2 extra cores are putting out alot of heat. I bet the thermal properties of his cpu have the max temps alot higher than a dual core chip. my single core amd 64 3200 @ 2700mhz never broke 45c. but my opty at 2700mhz struggles to stay below 54c. add another core to my opty and it get's hotter, and another core and it gets even hotter so you see where i am coming from. I can only see 3 solutions to this problem(it not really a problem though because i bet the chips well withing spec) 1 would be to go water cooling, temps will be better but not the greatest and you will end up having to have a very high end setup for it. 2 leave it like it is or 3 hope that some heatsink manufacturer makes a kick *** cooler for it. Just my 2 cents!
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I vote #3
What i use to do is lap the heatsink with 1500grit and then put a little AS5 on it and rub it with a towel. This will get some of the AS5 in the tiny places where there are still tiny groves (if there is any left, but i notice it will change the color a little on the cooper base... so i assume that this works) Then I would apply some AS5 on the CPU with an old credit card. Put the heatsink on and run the comp. I been told that there is a break in period for the TIM. Temps should get better after the break in period. If temps are still high, just wait for the new block that swiftech is going to release and go water cooling. I can't imagine how much more monsterly big then your tuniq they could make another air cooled heatsink.
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Result! Tonight I removed the heatsink and then sanded it some. I did not lap it, but instead sanded the areas that had scratchmarks, as these were the parts of the IHS that were raised. Basically, I "fit" the heatsink to the CPU's unevenness.
Then I reapplied the AS5 using a razor blade, and put a BB sized amount in the middle. After reassembling, my load temps max out at 66C on the hottest core after 30 minutes of Prime95 smallfft. That is at least a 12C improvement, so I am happy.
I think I will stick with this for a while. Maybe I will move to water once swifttech comes out with the new block. At least I can use the machine though. Thanks everyone for all the help and advice. It worked!
Then I reapplied the AS5 using a razor blade, and put a BB sized amount in the middle. After reassembling, my load temps max out at 66C on the hottest core after 30 minutes of Prime95 smallfft. That is at least a 12C improvement, so I am happy.
I think I will stick with this for a while. Maybe I will move to water once swifttech comes out with the new block. At least I can use the machine though. Thanks everyone for all the help and advice. It worked!
